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[Borza]

R'amen brother.

[DosTuMai]

R'amen sister.

I fixeded it for you. =]

[hellgremlin]

R'amen sister.

I fixeded it for you. =]

GIRL ON THE INTERNET! ALERT! ALERT! TO YOUR STATIONS, MEN!

START ACTING SEXY AND MANLY!

*Istvaan begins repairing a motorcycle while shirtless*

[Senn Typhos]

Don't fall for it, its obviously a dude in real life! D:

[Borza]

R'amen sister.

I fixeded it for you. =]

GIRL ON THE INTERNET! ALERT! ALERT! TO YOUR STATIONS, MEN!

START ACTING SEXY AND MANLY!

*Istvaan begins repairing a motorcycle while shirtless*

*Borza smashes Istavaan's motorcycle with the T-Rex he's riding while playing a guitar solo with the wind blowing through his hair*

[DosTuMai]

Don't fall for it, its obviously a dude in real life! D:

* Dossie Kielle looks up her skirt.
Hmmm.
Sorry boys, I'm taken. =]

[Silas Vitalia]

Bit of a similar discussion going on in this IGS thread at the moment. Not directly related to the OP but as always religion came up. Silas pushed some points on Alicia Wildfire regarding Matari atheism, similar to many of the points in this thread. 

Good time to jump in on either side IC if anyone here interested.

[DosTuMai]

Good time to jump in on either side IC if anyone here interested.

No, not really. I don't discuss religion.

[Silas Vitalia]

And what exactly was the point of that response, other than to sound completely snarky?

My link is directly related to the OP in this thread, people who have been participating in this thread have a good chance of wanting to participate IC. If you aren't, then just dont post... why the need for your comment?

[Ulphus]

Silas, I may be going blind, but I'm not seeing a link in your post.
Which thread? With a brief glance at IGS I fail to find anything that looks likely.

[Silas Vitalia]

Epic link fail on my part. sorry,

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1468714&page=2#43

[Isobel Mitar]

Oh, and on OOC the other night someone pointed out that the PF had been retconned in 2009, and that at the time of the rebellion there were still unconquered Matari fighting on against the Amarr. This rather confuses me now, as I didn't notice this at the time, and it rather changes a lot of assumptions that underpin ideas I had about how Matari culture works. I haven't figured out how to deal with that yet, but it does make me wonder whether maybe if the Nefantar had fought too, rather than collaborating, they'd have saved more culture?

I haven't noticed a change like this either? Can somebody please provide references (so I can go read it!) and/or explain what was changed? It isn't obvious to me from the above. (There used to be free Matari but it got rewritten? The other way around?)

[Louella Dougans]

Oh, and on OOC the other night someone pointed out that the PF had been retconned in 2009, and that at the time of the rebellion there were still unconquered Matari fighting on against the Amarr. This rather confuses me now, as I didn't notice this at the time, and it rather changes a lot of assumptions that underpin ideas I had about how Matari culture works. I haven't figured out how to deal with that yet, but it does make me wonder whether maybe if the Nefantar had fought too, rather than collaborating, they'd have saved more culture?

I haven't noticed a change like this either? Can somebody please provide references (so I can go read it!) and/or explain what was changed? It isn't obvious to me from the above. (There used to be free Matari but it got rewritten? The other way around?)

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1069891&page=1#2

Clarified the exact time scale of Minmatar subjugation at the hands of Amarr. Canon sources variously claimed the Minmatar were invaded and conquered wholesale in 22480 or that the Amarr were still invading and conquering their planets at the time of the Rebellion in 23216; canon has been modified to fit the latter scenario. This effectively puts current web site timelines out of date; the timelines will be given a full revamp soon.

with theodicy, the minmatar still had unconquered planets, a working Minmatar Fleet & command structure, and associated other things.

it's a Huge change. and it being buried away in a release note like that?

[Ulphus]

edit: Louella beat me to it

I agree, this is a huge change, and quite significantly changes my internal picture of how the Matari culture might have survived/changed. Whether it's based on half-remembered ideas after x hundred years of slavery, or based on half-remembered ideas after x hundred years of guerilla war.... it definitely affects my personal back-story, but I haven't figured out exactly what will be the result.

[Isobel Mitar]

Louella, thank you! Lots! 

it's a Huge change. and it being buried away in a release note like that?

Yes. I'll post this on EM forums, I can't be the only one who missed this change.