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[Shalee Lianne]

I like this idea.  We should do it.

[Graelyn]

I would be glad to be involved.

[Aldrith Shutaq]

Round tables are very knightly.

Just sayin'.

[orange]

Can we get a thread title name change?  Amarrian Loyalist round table perhaps?

No offense guys, but there are Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari loyalist too.

[Merdaneth]

What is the definition of loyalist really?

Would Blood Raider adherents be invited, EoM, people critical of Jamyl etc?

[Ashar Kor-Azor]

Frankly, we shouldn't even keep the thread. Should be Amarr & Subfaction OOC Round Table.

There's not a lot to talk about when you call it a loyalist roundtable and invite interesting but borderline corporations, and anything the core loyalist corps talk about there, they could just as easily talk about elsewhere.

[scagga]

Sounds interesting, I'd be happy to participate.

[lallara zhuul]

Lall is Loyal, to God, and her notion of the Empire.

Does that count?

[Laerise [PIE]]

Lall is Loyal, to God, and her notion of the Empire.

Does that count?

Uh, if you ask me, yes I guess.. as long as you're not a cuddle-me-liberal I don't see any reason to keep you out - and if only to have an ic shouting match 

Just before people start getting offended: if I host this I'm very happy to welcome everyone who is involved with amarr RP on the amarrian side of things to an OOC round table.

[Graelyn]

Soooo, when is this going down?

[Esna Pitoojee]

Thread seems to have stalled a bit, so I'll restart it with a first question.

Sarum's political agenda has swing mostly to the more liberal side. While she has made some aggresive moves, the vast majority of her actions (release of ninth generation slaves, reuniting with the Khanid Kingdom rather than just screaming "HERETICSSSS!" at them, and even the management of the Ammatar Mandate, which although officially run by Ardishapur is surely recieving significant royal scrutiny). This has more potential to create a rift between the hard-line conservative and more adaptable liberal Amarrian loyalists than anything since... well, actually the Sarumite-vs-rest-of-Empire conflict.

So, could an Amarrian civil war between hardliners and liberals be possible? Who would your character side with? Why?

[Mizhara]

I can't answer your question, Esna, but a public round-table for loyalist players would be immensely interesting, to be honest. I don't have any Amarr characters, or loyalist characters, but this strikes me as one hell of a learning opportunity. The greatest problem I've had when playing Mizhara (Anti-Amarrian more than Pro-Matari) is that the opponents seem to be... hiding. Not in space. For the most part, brave people and good pilots, but there's no real interaction besides pew-pew.

Hard to get to know 'the other side'. I approve very much of a round-table idea like this, both for the reasons mentioned further up (wiping out some of the tensions and hostilities within the same faction, OoC and so on) and for my own little selfish reasons.

Get this thing going guys. I'll be here.

[lallara zhuul]

Jamyl is an abomination unto God.
She is a coward that has brought shame to her House.
She is an agent of the Deceiver that is leading the Empire to its destruction.
She has lead the Faithful of Amarr into a futile war in the service of the Deceiver, therefore instead of martyring the Faithful they are being condemned to go to Hell because they have turned away from God.

Just my view on the situation

[Esna Pitoojee]

Jamyl is an abomination unto God.
She is a coward that has brought shame to her House.
She is an agent of the Deceiver that is leading the Empire to its destruction.
She has lead the Faithful of Amarr into a futile war in the service of the Deceiver, therefore instead of martyring the Faithful they are being condemned to go to Hell because they have turned away from God.

Just my view on the situation

So I take it then if a civil war did occur, you'd side with the hardliners fighting against Jamyl, but more beause you believe her to be an abomination unto God than because you have specific issues with her policies?

[Graelyn]

I think the hard-liners exist, but are few in number. It can be hard to back someone as a living miracle sent from God, and the launcher of the glorious reclaiming at last, and then to plot against her soon after.
Besides, Jamyl is a strong monarch. I get the feeling that if she does have powerful enemies, they had best not let it be known.