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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => Player Driven Content => Topic started by: Laerise [PIE] on 18 Apr 2010, 15:02
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Just to throw it out there since this forum seems to a.) house quite a diverse mix of loyalist corp members already and b.) much more loyalist friendly and flame free than theonewhosenamewedarenotspeakoutaloud.
Who would be interrested into opening a round table, maybe even make it into a monthly/bimonthly thing, where amarrian loyalists can discuss loyalistic matters?
I'd like to offer the paradise.found club for this because it's safer and more private than basilica ... and it has better service :P
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Is this IC or OOC? 'Cause the trouble is, a character like Ashar wouldn't be terribly welcome without some clearing of slates - or a character like Ashar's player, or a lot of people that used to associate with Revan in the most minor way possible, because of Amarrian crazy.
Perhaps they can just throw open the doors in light of Jamyl Sarum turning into a wtfliberal, tho?
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Well, to be quite honest, I don't think I have seen anything of Ashar in.. more than a year now. Are you still subscribed/playing? ;)
Also, if we don't turn it into a complete liberal muddhole you can always make a mirror image for the "dark side" of the bloc, right? Which would be rather amusing, at least imo
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Yus, see, there IS no more loyalist bloc. And I've been back ingame for the last month and more.
There's some dudes involved in PF and there's some scattered corps and that's all she wrote.
I don't think you'll get much real traction rebuilding anything with the old paradigm. What is needed is a broad church approach, to bring in anything that calls itself Amarrian by way of common ground in reference to faith and not politics; there is no longer a difficulty when it comes to politics because we have a body on the Golden Throne.
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Oh, definetly.
The biggest problem is the ammount of bad blood between various corps and how to get rid of that, if even temporarily, which is why I have posted about it here rather than on the igs.
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1PG(VV, VFOR whatever their current name is really), Knighthood of the Merciful Crown, Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr, Imperial Dreams, Deus Imperiosus Acies, PIE Inc. , Angel Wing. and whomever else I forgot.
It'd also be a good oportunity for everyone who is interrested to get to know the old/big players.
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Oh, hey, and before I forget them, I'd even consider inviting DELEO.
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[mod]Topic split to allow continuing discussion of the round table invitation while the Amarr Bloc debate is locked for a cool-down period. [/mod]
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Since lall's post seems to have been lost for now.
Yes, having an ooc round table first is a great idea.
It'll help cool peoples heads off beforehand - and I think some of us will have a lot of catching up to do with each other :) looking forward to hear your version of the last years lall!
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[mod]Relevant part of Lall's post moved here, post remains in split thread as most of it, in my opinion, belongs to that thread of discussion.
I believe that there are possibilities for getting a roundtable together with Amarrian roleplayers first in an OOC setting, then in an IC setting (OOC first so that you could lay down ground rules so that nobody would get their panties in a bunch, for example the more hardcore Amarrians would not even interact with someone who is in a lesbian marriage or has non-Amarrian corp mates.) Just so that they know each other, and they can send those that are interested in certain aspects of the Amarrian RP towards those that are in organizations that reflect those.
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I'm all for out of character stuff, but I really have no idea why it wouldn't be better to begin on a forum. Like this forum, for instance.
And I really have no idea why it should be closed off.
Nothing big enough to be raised at such a coming-together's kick-off meetings would require privacy or the speed of chat, and doing it well in the open would be good for recruitment.
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OGLOB certainly isn't a loyalist corp, but I'd be interested in being involved as a player.
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I'd be glad to have you, Esna.
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Reading through the thread again, it's still a little unclear to me whether this is meant to be IC or OOC.
Since lall's post seems to have been lost for now.
Yes, having an ooc round table first is a great idea.
It'll help cool peoples heads off beforehand - and I think some of us will have a lot of catching up to do with each other :) looking forward to hear your version of the last years lall!
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I'm all for out of character stuff, but I really have no idea why it wouldn't be better to begin on a forum. Like this forum, for instance.
And I really have no idea why it should be closed off.
Nothing big enough to be raised at such a coming-together's kick-off meetings would require privacy or the speed of chat, and doing it well in the open would be good for recruitment.
suggest OOC. Personally, I think an IC thinkg would be pretty nice, but then by my own admission I'm not a real "heavy" RPer and as such have avoided much the drama and unfortunate bad blood that's hit some of the heavier RP community and would make such an IC thing rather difficult.
Note that I'm not bashing the idea of an OOC round table - it seems pretty nice. I'm just saying that I think the idea of an IC round table would be nice as well.
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If such a thing were to occur, it'd start with an OOC one, yeah.
And it'd be Amarrian generally if I had anything to say about it, because 'loyalist' is starting to equate to 'FW corp or affiliate.'
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I like this idea. We should do it.
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I would be glad to be involved.
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Round tables are very knightly.
Just sayin'.
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Can we get a thread title name change? Amarrian Loyalist round table perhaps?
No offense guys, but there are Minmatar, Gallente, and Caldari loyalist too.
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What is the definition of loyalist really?
Would Blood Raider adherents be invited, EoM, people critical of Jamyl etc?
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Frankly, we shouldn't even keep the thread. Should be Amarr & Subfaction OOC Round Table.
There's not a lot to talk about when you call it a loyalist roundtable and invite interesting but borderline corporations, and anything the core loyalist corps talk about there, they could just as easily talk about elsewhere.
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Sounds interesting, I'd be happy to participate.
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Lall is Loyal, to God, and her notion of the Empire.
Does that count?
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Lall is Loyal, to God, and her notion of the Empire.
Does that count?
Uh, if you ask me, yes I guess.. as long as you're not a cuddle-me-liberal I don't see any reason to keep you out - and if only to have an ic shouting match :|
Just before people start getting offended: if I host this I'm very happy to welcome everyone who is involved with amarr RP on the amarrian side of things to an OOC round table.
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Soooo, when is this going down?
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Thread seems to have stalled a bit, so I'll restart it with a first question.
Sarum's political agenda has swing mostly to the more liberal side. While she has made some aggresive moves, the vast majority of her actions (release of ninth generation slaves, reuniting with the Khanid Kingdom rather than just screaming "HERETICSSSS!" at them, and even the management of the Ammatar Mandate, which although officially run by Ardishapur is surely recieving significant royal scrutiny). This has more potential to create a rift between the hard-line conservative and more adaptable liberal Amarrian loyalists than anything since... well, actually the Sarumite-vs-rest-of-Empire conflict.
So, could an Amarrian civil war between hardliners and liberals be possible? Who would your character side with? Why?
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I can't answer your question, Esna, but a public round-table for loyalist players would be immensely interesting, to be honest. I don't have any Amarr characters, or loyalist characters, but this strikes me as one hell of a learning opportunity. The greatest problem I've had when playing Mizhara (Anti-Amarrian more than Pro-Matari) is that the opponents seem to be... hiding. Not in space. For the most part, brave people and good pilots, but there's no real interaction besides pew-pew.
Hard to get to know 'the other side'. I approve very much of a round-table idea like this, both for the reasons mentioned further up (wiping out some of the tensions and hostilities within the same faction, OoC and so on) and for my own little selfish reasons.
Get this thing going guys. I'll be here.
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Jamyl is an abomination unto God.
She is a coward that has brought shame to her House.
She is an agent of the Deceiver that is leading the Empire to its destruction.
She has lead the Faithful of Amarr into a futile war in the service of the Deceiver, therefore instead of martyring the Faithful they are being condemned to go to Hell because they have turned away from God.
Just my view on the situation :D
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Jamyl is an abomination unto God.
She is a coward that has brought shame to her House.
She is an agent of the Deceiver that is leading the Empire to its destruction.
She has lead the Faithful of Amarr into a futile war in the service of the Deceiver, therefore instead of martyring the Faithful they are being condemned to go to Hell because they have turned away from God.
Just my view on the situation :D
So I take it then if a civil war did occur, you'd side with the hardliners fighting against Jamyl, but more beause you believe her to be an abomination unto God than because you have specific issues with her policies?
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I think the hard-liners exist, but are few in number. It can be hard to back someone as a living miracle sent from God, and the launcher of the glorious reclaiming at last, and then to plot against her soon after.
Besides, Jamyl is a strong monarch. I get the feeling that if she does have powerful enemies, they had best not let it be known.
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I think the hard-liners exist, but are few in number. It can be hard to back someone as a living miracle sent from God, and the launcher of the glorious reclaiming at last, and then to plot against her soon after.
Besides, Jamyl is a strong monarch. I get the feeling that if she does have powerful enemies, they had best not let it be known.
And for as long as the Privy Council, the Theology Council and the Speakers of Truth all support her, it would be very hard to speak out against her and not appear to be disloyal to the Empire.
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Would be nice if there were some way to erode her support with those organizations, even a tiny bit.
Also, wouldn't pod pilots - as outside but in some cases decorated members of the Amarr hierarchy- be one of the few groups that are capable of being critical of the sitting emperor or empress. I would think that just as a matter of foreign policy if nothing else, in most situations the organizations that you mention have no choice but to show a united, supportive front.
Not to say that any criticism of the Empress wouldn't have to be tactfully phrased or risk even a podder being severely ostracized, but I think podders can exercise at least a bit more freedom in that regard than members of the organs of the Empire.