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[kalaratiri]

So.

CCP have made an interesting announcement in their CCP Presents keynote.

The Guristas have discovered technology that allows consciousnesses to be transferred between different kind of bodies, Capsuleer, Clone Merc and Valkyrie pilot, or simply held in storage.

In OOC marketing terms, this allows you to have one character across all three of their PC games, Eve, Legion and Valkyrie.

IC, this is hilariously :wat:, one of the purest examples of  I've ever seen.

Discuss \o/

[Katrina Oniseki]

I am embracing this wholeheartedly. Everybody said it couldn't be done. Everybody said it was impossible. ... until somebody figured out otherwise.

That's how science works, honestly.

This changes the political landscape completely.

[kalaratiri]

I am embracing this wholeheartedly. Everybody said it couldn't be done. Everybody said it was impossible. ... until somebody figured out otherwise.

That's how science works, honestly.

This changes the political landscape completely.

I'm just mind blown at how quickly they've reversed from "Capsuleers and Dusties are completely incompatible" to "You can be everything!!11"

[Louella Dougans]

bang goes the idea then, that capsuleers are vulnerable out of the capsule.

Secure captains quarters -> clone re-doodading doodad -> immortal dude body for doing planetary/station stuffs.

Unlikely to be able to walk in stations though, except as an extension of Legion, I figure.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Unlikely to be able to walk in stations though, except as an extension of Legion, I figure.

That's better, imho. Legion probably won't use Carbon, and will rely on a more stable and proven graphics engine.

[kalaratiri]

Unlikely to be able to walk in stations though, except as an extension of Legion, I figure.

That's better, imho. Legion probably won't use Carbon, and will rely on a more stable and proven graphics engine.

Unreal 4 I believe

[Desiderya]

Talking IC I don't see how this should be impossible.
The key point was transfering consciousness into separate bodies with separate abilities. Regarding 'now we can do anything' - literally everything the capsuleers can do is magicked into them by virtue of getting skullfucked by skillbooks (skillfucked, you've seen it here, first!). So why not the other two disciplines, too.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Unlikely to be able to walk in stations though, except as an extension of Legion, I figure.

That's better, imho. Legion probably won't use Carbon, and will rely on a more stable and proven graphics engine.

Unreal 4 I believe

Yaay.

[Ashley]

I am embracing this wholeheartedly. Everybody said it couldn't be done. Everybody said it was impossible. ... until somebody figured out otherwise.

That's how science works, honestly.

This changes the political landscape completely.

I'm just mind blown at how quickly they've reversed from "Capsuleers and Dusties are completely incompatible" to "You can be everything!!11"

Not that quickly, pr guy talked about it last  year on eve vegas.

I'm more interested wtf PIE. dude is doing in the trailer in his black and gold uniform. =P

[Saede Riordan]

THEY SAID IT COULDN'T BE DONE. THEY SAID IT WAS MADNESS.

[PracticalTechnicality]

I have to echo many of Katrina's sentiments here.  This is a good move both market-wise and thematically, as the need to tie together three separate identities is unwieldy (as the amount of 'dust toon eve chars' demonstrates). 

The technology shouldn't be that hard to explain and will bring so much utility to the game that I will forgive almost any retcon required to usher it in.  If anything, this further inspired my current independent capsuleer leanings, driving me ever more into my love of frontier industry and the future of cloned individuals as a breed unto themselves.

[kalaratiri]

I don't disagree with the reasoning, I'm just feeling like they're changing the lore fast enough to make my head spin o.o

Marketing wise, it's genius. All the people who get Valkyrie as an Oculus initial title will discover they already have a usable character in two other CCP products, hopefully encouraging people to try them.

But I'm still going 

[Drakolus]

All fluff and various questions aside... WANT NAOW!

I think it will push the trans-humanist aspect even further now though.  Considering Capsuleers can now literally "do it all" what do we need the rest of humanity for save for cheap labor and what ever else our whims direct us?

[Ollie]

I am currently stockpiling the popcorn for all the drama-filled arguments it will spawn on the various RP channels about who is doinitrite and who isn't.

Seriously though, it's a good marketing move - they've already got a core EVE subscriber base of several tens of thousands and starting two new games with that base is a sound idea. Also, not everyone's going to want to be a jack-of-all-trades and I think most will still 'specialise' into the game they find the most enjoyable to play while still having the option to play the others badly.

[Esna Pitoojee]

Marketing wise it's certainly a good move.

Can't say I'm impressed with the lore, though.