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[Bacchanalian]

Do people really think this is about the monocles?   

[Senn Typhos]

Do people really think this is about the monocles?   

It's weird, right? >>

[Rao Kappa]

Do people really think this is about the monocles?   

Of course there's more to it than that. I was pointing out one aspect of this whole incident I think is amusing.

As for the other issues, it really doesn't matter to me one way or the other. My personal choice is not to get wound up over it. If the game is fun, I'll play it. If it isn't, I'll unsub. It's entertainment, and I judge my entertainment on its ability to entertain me or not.

Personally, I don't care what CCP sells on the NeX. I could go into my reasons, but they've been stated more adequately above. Just because you can buy something, doesn't mean you're going to pwn face with it. You still have to play the game.

[scagga]

Do people really think this is about the monocles?   

I don't see a mechanic that allows anyone to get an advantage with aurum that can't be matched by someone with isk (if all aurum items can be resold for isk, they will be resold for isk).

I think you are concerned about the effect the changes may have on PvP.  You may be very averse to the idea that someone can use aurum to buy an item that gives them a combat advantage (e.g. more grid, speed, or whatever.. or special ships).  The way CCP is wording their replies now suggests they are considering reconsidering that approach. 

However, even if such changes were made, those who couldn't afford Aurum could buy the items with isk.  What I think would infuriate you would be the idea that someone who could afford plenty of aurum would be able to outbuy someone who only relies on isk to get the best items, instead of grinding etc to make that isk.

I don't sympathise with that view.  The game is such that there are subsets of the population who have access to huge income that they did not take part in making available to themselves, that they didn't 'earn' (e.g. joining a 0.0. alliance with ship replacement programmes, in-house T2 bpos and moo goo, etc). 

[Ciarente]

I think you are concerned about the effect the changes may have on PvP.  You may be very averse to the idea that someone can use aurum to buy an item that gives them a combat advantage (e.g. more grid, speed, or whatever.. or special ships). 

Speaking for myself, as someone who engages in market / industry PvP, the (speculative) changes would not be an "I win button" for other players, but an "I win button" for NPCs.

If I want to compete in and control a market sector, there are a range of strategies I can employ against player-competitors: using buy orders to strangle their supply lines, shipping in minerals from cheaper sectors to undercut their prices and destroy their profit margins, wardeccing them to prevent them moving supplies in and manufactured goods out of their factory station.

If CCP sets up a shop in every station where you can buy an equivalent or better good from the NPC, I can't starve them out because they poof the goods into existence from thin air; nor can I manufacture more cheaply because manufacture costs them nothing; nor can I wardec them to disrupt their operations. I can't invest in a better-researched blueprint or use my IG social networks  to borrow one or get copies,  because CCP's +1 BetterMod only exists as a finished item in the NeX store. I can't use market history to see how their sales are, or identify activity times to time my own sales, or any of the other strategies I can employ against players.

[Bacchanalian]

What Ciarente said.  It'll rape the economy.

[Ciarente]

FYI, rape =/ anything that happens in an internet spaceships game.

[Aodha Khan]

ragequit unsubs out there.

Why does it have to be a ragequit? Can't people see that CCP is moving Eve in the wrong direction, letting features rot and moving most development to other games be enough for someone to make a decision to calmly (with dissapointment) quit the game?

It's good that the community is voicing its opinion so strongly. Maybe CCP will listen for the first time in years. Amazing how the search for more and more money has changed CCP from the cool company with vision they used to be. If they continued to develop Eve and forgot about putting significant resources and money into other games they wouldn't be in the current financial mess they are in and wouldn't have to resort to microtransactions to get additional funding.

[Jade Constantine]

Its much easier to project a negative stereotype for the other side of the argument using words like "ragequit" "haters" "whiners" "poor jealous" etc etc. Which is why the anti protest protesters tend to like to use kind of language. Works exactly the same way in real protest situations as well - (another example of emergent gameplay there!)

Still all depends what happens this weekend I guess.

Jade's shaved off her hair in solidarity with the protests against the Amarrian-owned NeX monopoly btw ... I think its a decent IC way of portraying the affair ...

[Jade Constantine]

also ... I take  my hat off the butterdog who has truly topped the monocle-troll with his latest call for

Truly Elite Monocles]

(as distinct from those nasty common as muck 1.6 billion isk tat-items)

Bravo BD!

[BloodBird]

*Post with picture*

Reminds me of Britney Spears. Not a good thing.

SF/Jade seem to have a new cause against corrupt corporate sheninigans. That's a good thing - I guess.

[Revan Neferis]

Jade's shaved off her hair in solidarity with the protests against the Amarrian-owned NeX monopoly btw ... I think its a decent IC way of portraying the affair ...

Britney Spears is a bit outfashioned love lol, still amusing. Jade looks better bald btw.

Let's hope ccp matches some zillion isk suits and ties now so I can match the other side of your protest.

[Jade Constantine]

Jade's shaved off her hair in solidarity with the protests against the Amarrian-owned NeX monopoly btw ... I think its a decent IC way of portraying the affair ...

Britney Spears is a bit outfashioned love lol, still amusing. Jade looks better bald btw.

Let's hope ccp matches some zillion isk suits and ties now so I can match the other side of your protest.

Well butterdog is already campaigning for non-common Monocles so you might get your wish ...

(I hope he succeeds tbh, I'd actually be quite interested to see if people would pay 100 billion isk for a monocle.)

[Revan Neferis]

(I hope he succeeds tbh, I'd actually be quite interested to see if people would pay 100 billion isk for a monocle.)

Doubt it. A few billions to invest on rp is perfectly good, I guess items reaching 10, 20 billion are still reasonable. 100 billion? I doubt it.

[Jade Constantine]

(I hope he succeeds tbh, I'd actually be quite interested to see if people would pay 100 billion isk for a monocle.)

Doubt it. A few billions to invest on rp is perfectly good, I guess items reaching 10, 20 billion are still reasonable. 100 billion? I doubt it.

Somebody would if only to laugh at the non-elite monocle-wearers who had an inferior product. This is eve after all, I expect even the vanity item "pvp" will be brutal.

btw my new portrait!



I don't think Jade's ever looked more like the miner it says in her ancestry notification!
(either that or in prison!)