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Author Topic: Revolt against ccp - isn't this blowing out of proportions people?!  (Read 26067 times)

Revan Neferis

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Non relevant to the topic but, before anymore questions of the nature comes up:

Also, are Jade and Revan a couple?

Long time since I've heard that question  :twisted:

Answer is Yes.
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Katrina Oniseki

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Non relevant to the topic but, before anymore questions of the nature comes up:

Long time since I've heard that question  :twisted:

Answer is Yes.

Oh! Congrats!

EDIT/Addendum

Also, I used to be really gung ho during the start of the protests, joining in the Jita lagfest and voicing my opinion in various discussion channels. Then someone in Jita local asked how many of us were really going to unsub, and how many of us were just jumping on the bandwagon.

I realized there that, while I never intended to unsub unless CCP's MT system begins actually affecting -my- gameplay, I was in fact just joining because it was something to do. I stopped chanting and shooting right there and went back to my missions. I don't like the idea, but ever since then, I've just felt a bit silly about the whole thing. I'm easily self-embarrassed though, so that has a lot to do with it.
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Vikarion

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Heh, I unsubbed, gave away some of my stuff, and uninstalled the client. I'm back, provisionally. I didn't bother joining any protests, though...just yelled on forums.
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Half Cocked Jack

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Heh, I unsubbed, gave away some of my stuff, and uninstalled the client. I'm back, provisionally. I didn't bother joining any protests, though...just yelled on forums.

If I hadn't given away so much of my stuff after the standings tweaks last month, I could have bought a monocle.  ;)
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Pulled 3/5 accounts myself, am in the process of selling the Nyx and the character that pilots it.  That latter part won't be changing, I've really lost a lot of faith in CCP over this regardless of the outcome.  Depending on the outcome of the next few weeks, I'll do one of a few things;
a) keep my remaining 2 accounts online, and either re-sub a third or transfer that character to one of my remaining 2;
b) transfer both of the characters other than Bacch that I want to keep to Bacch's account, close all other accounts after liquidating, use the mountain of isk I'll have to spend the next few months going out with a big shiny bang, eventually bleeding myself dry and quitting altogether;
c) some other course of action similar to the above two.

There's no point in my posting all over the EVE O forums about it, 50,000 people have gone before me and done that.  Ultimately, I don't want to play a pay to win game.  If CCP doesn't make it crystal clear that they won't be going down that road, I'll be moving on. 

EDIT:  Uhhhh....  http://www.eve-news.com/2011/06/26/sony-online-entertainment-acquire-ccp-games/
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Pulled 3/5 accounts myself, am in the process of selling the Nyx and the character that pilots it.  That latter part won't be changing, I've really lost a lot of faith in CCP over this regardless of the outcome.  Depending on the outcome of the next few weeks, I'll do one of a few things;
a) keep my remaining 2 accounts online, and either re-sub a third or transfer that character to one of my remaining 2;
b) transfer both of the characters other than Bacch that I want to keep to Bacch's account, close all other accounts after liquidating, use the mountain of isk I'll have to spend the next few months going out with a big shiny bang, eventually bleeding myself dry and quitting altogether;
c) some other course of action similar to the above two.

There's no point in my posting all over the EVE O forums about it, 50,000 people have gone before me and done that.  Ultimately, I don't want to play a pay to win game.  If CCP doesn't make it crystal clear that they won't be going down that road, I'll be moving on.

Well Bacch the way you're doing it you could spend $20 a month on Aurum and keep winning without changing your expenditure.

The other point I would make is that you have effectively paying the equivalent of $50/month for your game (or isk equivalent), ostensibly for an advantage to help you win.
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Bacchanalian

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The other point I would make is that you have effectively paying the equivalent of $50/month for your game (or isk equivalent), ostensibly for an advantage to help you win.

Yes and no.  Xaiah and Mishka both fly ships that Bacch cannot/could not, so they just basically give me a chance to fly differently quite a lot of the time (ie, if we're in a shield fleet of some sort, I have the option to fly a Tengu with Xaiah instead of a Vulture with Bacch, or if we're going RRBS, I can fly a Geddon with Mishka instead of a Megathron on Bacch).  The Nyx throws a bit of a wrench in that, and the odd time that I dualbox them does as well, but for the most part, I kept all three of those because they expanded my fun in a sense, not as much because they gave me a leg-up. 

As for the other two, I was creating characters to do something different and new that would have had no real impact on "winning" with Bacch as much as it would have had in my having fun.  Sometimes starting over and flying around in a frigate can be more fun than being a 5 year old character with a name people around you recognize and are wary to engage.  :P
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Tagera

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How did you all manage to get such superb looking portraits? Anyways.....yeah the monocle is crap. It looks like crap, and is way overpriced. I'm not completely against the NeX...but I also think it wasn't the best idea to come up with. I'm hoping that since it looks like the NeX is here to stay they keep it limited to vanity items only and can then be sold ingame at some point. If they want to keep the items non-destructible thats fine really. Though it's going to cause havoc latter when the markets and contracts are flooded with them....thats if the price on NeX lowers. Otherwise they should make those items destructible also.
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Casiella

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CCP has specifically denied the Sony claim, BTW
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Kyoko Sakoda

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Sony claim was a troll (EVE General Discussion good place to get info mid-community rage, c/d?)
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EVE General Discussion good place to get info ever, c/d?
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I never had much rage in the first place as I have other issues on my mind than EVE. Not due to lack of interest but due to more important demands. Like many I am not really considering doing any cancellation of subscription before actual non-vanity items have made their way to the NeX store on Tranquility.

I am a bit annoyed about some parts of this incident. Especially CCPs “rock star attitude” displayed in Hillmar’s internal mail and in CCP Zulu’s first blog. Secondly I do not like the way CCP management have tried to handle the discussion on virtual goods sales both internally and externally. They should have known that is a highly flammable subject and they should have consulted the CSM heavily and build up strong argumentation for their planning and decisions before the NeX was released. One that players could agree with and even support other than “we need to do this to make more money”. It seems they have not only gotten out of touch with their customers but also with their own employees hence the number of leaked company materials.

And now they calling for time out to build up their case until the CSM go to Island… shesh. I am no more impressed by CCPs management than the one I work for.
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Like Myyona, I was mostly ::facepalm:: at CCP's pants-on-head handling of the situation. I unsubbed accounts (a largely meaningless gesture since I paid a couple of monocles on them less than a skirt ago) largely with a sense of 'So, you don't care enough about my custom to even give an answer on these issues? Well, good to know. You don't have it."

While I don't envisage myself stopping playing unless CCP actually does break the game - for an industrialist and trader like me, that would be through the introduction of any cash items that are / are replacements for player-made goods - I am probably going to reduce the number of accounts I run unless CCP pulls a rabbit out of their hat, as opposed to apparently pulling press releases out of their asses. 
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on a plus point virtual revolts are true emergent gameplay  8)
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