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Author Topic: Ret-Cons of CCP actor character actions, and ret cons in general  (Read 3422 times)

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On the IGS recently, a character made a remark about another character. That remark was inaccurate, and I knew this to be the case, because Synthia happened to be at the event at which the alleged incident occurred, as were many other players, and a CCP event actor.

So I wrote a clarification on what did actually happen, from Synthia's point of view of the events that occurred within Synthia's line of sight.

Then, to my great surprise, I received an evemail from the character about who the remark was made, who said that they had been told, by none other than CCP themselves, that the event (an event run by a player), was "non-canon", and "never happened".

Which I found somewhat surprising.

Because this was the first I've heard of it, despite being at that event, as were dozens of other players.

Where does this leave the history that many player characters have, which includes interaction with CCP event actor characters ?

Example: Synthia interacted with several event actor characters - evemailing the Khanid Navy admiral to wish King Khanid a happy birthday. If CCP event actor actions are to be considered non-canon, then what does that mean ?



As it turns out, this is not the first interaction that I have had with characters who stated that events had never occurred. There was a previous occasion where a character stated that a particular event "never happened", because they "ret-conned it". Although in that case, it appeared to be just themselves who were "ret-conning" something, and not claiming that it was CCP who were behind it.


So, to what extent is public RP, unilaterally retconnable, by a single involved person ?

To me, the whole idea of saying "this never happened", without 100% agreement from all the people who were there, is completely alien and baffling


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Karmilla Strife

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Do they/we have any evemails or forum posts indicating that CCP has actually taken this position? I know that it's been said CCP Actors will not do anything in player run channels anymore, but this is the first I've heard of them redacting those previous interactions.
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Silas Vitalia

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Can you be more specific? What event? What ccp character actor?

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Also this entire topic is hilarious flamebait and is going to be cast down into the abyss by the Great and Mighty Havohej, keeper of the Katacombs, to be gnawed forever by the Mizhoggur.
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Silas Vitalia

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Doesn't need to be flamebait, if we all be adults and discuss it!

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Yes that event did happen, things at that event did happen, witnessed by many. 

If people chose to be there, then they were there.  That's why public RP is important, because we make decisions with social ramifications.

So if someone did something they didn't like, then use it as character building and deal with it how your character would.

It's not a win/loss scenario, it's community storytelling.

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Karmilla Strife

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yeah, it's not like they retconned Colelie just because event actors talked on The Summit
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Synthia

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yeah, it's not like they retconned Colelie just because event actors talked on The Summit

given how that event was received by lots of players, maybe they should have.
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[admin]Reviewed.  Feels borderline.  Everything so veil.  Much obscure.  Such secret.  Wow.  Clarify the OP and avoid assigning motives or casting aspersions while you do it.  If the actual topic of discussion isn't actually crystal clear in an hour's time, I'm Katacombing the whole thing.[/admin]
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Actually this sits in my area of interest.....i created Federation Day years ago....and CCP never actually gave a nod of approval as cannon...but there were plenty of actors and mission texts that do indeed recognized it as a part of the eve universe, albeit indirectly.

If suddenly CCP backpedal from that...not sure how to take it.
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Reviewed.  Feels borderline.  Everything so veil.  Much obscure.  Such secret.  Wow.  Clarify the OP and avoid assigning motives or casting aspersions while you do it.  If the actual topic of discussion isn't actually crystal clear in an hour's time, I'm Katacombing the whole thing.

topics have been clarified.
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A character made a remark about a character and some things happened.

I have no fucking clue what this thread is about.

Who said what where why how when, are we talking about the fucking Illuminati here?

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