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[Gaven Lok ri]

See, I don't see that as hardliner, but rather as mainstream.

Hardliner is Tetrimonic killing of slaves rather than allowing their release. Or things along those lines.

[Graelyn]

As Amarrian history and RL history proves, religion is always malleable.

The rise of a new class of godlike, deathless beings will probably be a catalyst to more such change.

I'm actually somewhat annoyed by what I've heard from Source, because a year ago, when I had a big plan of a capsuleer ecumenical conference to pressure the Theology Council to speed up their deliberations on the theology of clones and souls (no, they are not agreed upon the specifics yet, or so 'active' NPCs have told me), Falcon asked me to hold off, saying developments on the subject were incoming. I figured Source would be that. I find myself ever doubtful of any resolution.

[PracticalTechnicality]

Graelyn, ignore CCp in all regards IMO.  I like Source, but WE are the content creators here. 

Pressure away, and if they don't reply, at least see if you can gather a consensus among the main Amarrian entities on how capsuleers feel on the matter. 

I don't like the idea of a good idea of yours being left to gather dust on the promises of a company that has time and again proven they have as much reliability as a Jita contract posted in local.  I still love the game CCP provides, the same way my mobile contract does what I need it to 99% of the time, but both CCP and my service provider dick me off pretty convincingly with their smug, attitude, laced with 'you don't understand' the moment anyone calls them out.

I am pretty keen on what IS in Source - not too bothered by what isn't personally, but can see it being a pain for those who have chars that need that foundation of explicit cultural context/dogma/scriptural mandate to flesh them out.  I was a little put out by the short shrift Intaki got yet again, despite the decent number of capsuleers they throw out into the cluster - but this was made up for with the Federation segment being pretty damned good (this coming from a player who isn't awfully enamoured of the Fed, but finds the libertarian dog-eat-dog society to be much more interesting than the previously imagined well-fare state riddled beatnik sit in). 

Also woo, Caldari State more socialist than any of the others.  That came as a mild surprise, but pleasantly handled. 

With this in mind, it is high time for CCP to stop painting the Minnies in shades of slave and the Amarr as 'crazy religious nuts'.  Those 'slaves' are masters of miniaturisation and mechanics, and have built a functional interstellar government from nothing (rough edges and economic problems, but it works).  Those 'crazy zealots' invented a multi-dimensional capacitor (tesseract cap unit), energy weapons before most of the others got into space and have reliable engineering that is hundreds of years old still in contemporary use.  Both of them are amazing, startlingly effective societies at odds with each other.  More self define, less 'black and white go to war' pleaaaase.

Tl;Dr: Good people in bad company make good product, while some bad apples make spurious and untenable promises which they then deny ever having made (or make sound unimportant).  More respect for the universe required by those who made it.

[Graelyn]

Unfortunately, when the goal of an idea is to inspire NPC action (or just give CCP the chance to do something), their unwillingness to lift a finger tends to spell the end of it.

[Nicoletta Mithra]

Tetrimon aren't hardliner's within orthodoxy: They are heretics.

[Louella Dougans]

The letters of Bishop Dalamaid have been the subject of volumes of intellectual discourse. The primary contention of the letters, that true saintly martyrdom is an impossibility for anyone even aware of the concept of sainthood, has gone through various levels of favor over the generations.

How does that fit with a literalist, unchanging interpretation of the Scriptures ?

[Graelyn]

I would still like to pick up a copy of this (instead of relying on people telling me the contents), but due to, well, several things in my neighborhood, ordering it online is best avoided. Is this ever going to hit bookstores?

[Lunarisse Aspenstar]

Graelyn, perhaps because the book seller thinks the lowest demand is for the Amarr section, the "preview" of Eve Source at the official CCP vendor consists of the entire Amarr section.

[Nicoletta Mithra]

not the entirety,it breaks of when the bllodlines are described, but it's quite agood chunk of it.

[Arnulf Ogunkoya]

I'm just annoyed because my Kindle version will display on my tiny little (by comparison) Android phone, but refuses to work with the Kindle PC application.

Bloody DRM idiocy no doubt.

[Katrina Oniseki]

I like Source, actually. I was pleased to find that the State actually offers free healthcare.

[Nicoletta Mithra]

The question is: what do you like about Source? The description of the State and the Federation seem to be differntiated and not clash with prior PF from what I hear and saw (though I'm no expert there). So, I can imagine that those parts are satisfying.

[Katrina Oniseki]

No, it clashes. It's got contradictions against its own contradictions against prior PF. It's a mess, no doubt. I prefer to think (read: fantasize) it as a first edition. Full of errors, and due for a revision!

That said, for all its contradictions, I find that more satisfying. I didn't want a single "source" for all my PF. I didn't want one that was sacrosanct or inviolable. I wanted something that expands on parts of the lore that haven't been expanded on. It does that.

I went into this with the understanding that CCP wrote it, and there will be errors and contradictions. None of us really expected otherwise, did we? Maybe that's low standards, but it's realistic.

I guess I'm not concerned with it because I still read it the same way I read all other PF sources; as yet another different perspective on the same fictional worlds. If even real history books get it wrong and contradict each other, then surely this fictional one can too?

Just my laid back two cents.

[Lyn Farel]

If real history books get it wrong and contradict each other ?

[Lunarisse Aspenstar]

If real history books get it wrong and contradict each other ?

Happens all the time Lyn.  History is shaded by the preconceptions and biases of the authors, as well as access or lack of access to all pertinent information. I've said before that Luna is viewing the Source Amarr section as being written by an ivory tower gallente academic.

American history has quite a few examples of competing interpretations/views.