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[Ollie]

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2560040#post2560040

This is a very interesting in-character development within the ongoing thread detailing the recent Guristas/CPD focussed live event. I think the people behind characters chosen in the legal action are certainly some of the best that could have been selected in view of the RP response they'll likely give and the lack of, uhmm ... 'whine' factor (for want of better term) in all of them.

That said, I've seen 'law suits' attempted in other RP mediums in the past and while they always promise a lot of potential they quite often fail to live up to it for a number of reasons. My own being that what seems interesting at the start seems to get bogged down and somewhat dull the more it progresses. I think also sometimes there's a bit of hand-waving and reluctance to get over-involved with the RP out of concern that they'll 'lose' something of importance in the game through factors that are:

• Not supported (or at least not well-supported) by defined game mechanics
• Probably not well understood by non-lawyer types should the GM decide to go for too much legal drama detail (disclaimer: As anyone who has ever GM'd a game of anything knows, players are some of the best lawyers out there  )

I'm interested if anyone has been involved in similar RP situations in the past and what were the lessons or experiences taken from that.

To reiterate to Falcon or Eterne (or whoever's running it) I think this is a great idea and I'm certainly not holding up a urdoinitwrong placard. 

[Gesakaarin]

I do admit to have had a chuckle in the fact that Veikitamo gets sued and sent to CBT tribunal working for SuVee and then she gets sued and sent to CBT arbitration working for KK. 

Maybe people just want to see her break out the pinstripe lawyer suit and skirt.

However, corporate law is a fundamental aspect of the Caldari State and it's certainly interesting to see it in action like this I think.

Also: "No comment at this time." appears to be a popular sentence in public for DUTY now.

[orange]

We sure are putting the dirty laundry out there on the line for everyone to look at.   

[Katrina Oniseki]

We sure are putting the dirty laundry out there on the line for everyone to look at.   

Guristas aligned folks tend to do that.

[Desiderya]

Quite the surprise, actually. But a pleasant one. Interested to see how it pans out. 

[Aquila Shadow]

Should be fun.

[lallara zhuul]

The odd bit about the EVE PF that there is no real indications of what different legal systems are and what are the different legal entities in the societies that live there.

For example there is no real information what the legal entity of Capsuleer entails.
What pros and what cons does it have?

How about the rights and the duties of citizens in the different factions?
Soldiers, small businesses, politicians, Holders, slaves, agents, employees, bureaucrats, traders, space ship captains, the list goes on and on.

What rights and duties do corporations have within the different legal entities of New Eden?

It's all a bit of a muddle and CCP has zero interest clearing it up.

[Alizabeth]

First, get rid of all the laywers.  (Says the girl that wants her JD)

On a less humorous note: this is New Eden.  If someone disagrees with another person, frigates at 50km.  (you can go up from there. If anyone is going to have a titan dual, fraps and I'll make sure TMDC (insert plug here) posts it.)

[orange]

  No, really, 

[Gesakaarin]

No, really, 

I thought you hated the Dear Executor?

What's the problem if he just got sued personally over the actions of a "Kaalakiota Affiliate"? 

[Aelisha Montenagre]

Definitely an interesting development.  I am not quite getting your point here Dex?

[Lyn Farel]

Awesomesauce

[Ghost Hunter]

Definitely an interesting development.  I am not quite getting your point here Dex?

I am presuming that this is an unusual display of public laundry cleaning that doesn't fit with the Caldari motif. That is to say, non-Caldari are seeing the State deal with an issue that should be private. If that is true, then I can somewhat agree with the position. Conversely, the nature of most Live Events tend to warrant being public.

[Lyn Farel]

Bleh, most factional blocs always prefer to keep their laundry cleaning private anyway, in the hope to prevent giving the enemy free ammo and let them see the internal in fighting.

And it's better that way, it becomes less tedious to know what's going on (unlike Arek Jalaan or the Sansha invasions that were monopolized by a few chosen players). There is still place for more private secret stuff happening.

[orange]

I thought you hated the Dear Executor?

What's the problem if he just got sued personally over the actions of a "Kaalakiota Affiliate"? 

Dex Nederland disagrees with the concept of a single Executor for the State and it is not the idea that INTDA is filling suite against KK in the CBT that is frustrating him or me as his player.

Definitely an interesting development.  I am not quite getting your point here Dex?

I am presuming that this is an unusual display of public laundry cleaning that doesn't fit with the Caldari motif. That is to say, non-Caldari are seeing the State deal with an issue that should be private. If that is true, then I can somewhat agree with the position. Conversely, the nature of most Live Events tend to warrant being public.

Dex Nederland already took what actions he could to reduce the airing of dirty laundry.  He didn't do it publicly, but clearly too little too late in many respects.  He/I relearned that lesson in the last IGS arc.

And it's better that way, it becomes less tedious to know what's going on (unlike Arek Jalaan or the Sansha invasions that were monopolized by a few chosen players). There is still place for more private secret stuff happening.

What is frustrating is that my attempts to pursue more private RP around this event have effectively been stonewalled at every turn.   By more private, I mean not on IGS, Dex Nederland contacted numerous other capsuleers privately as a group to coordinate an effort.  Various characters involved in Caldari RP were asked to do stuff.   Sorry for the vagueness, but the "result" is not finalized as of yet.

Perhaps the responses Dex Nederland received are actually a symptom of the event's background not being vetted at this point and the legal case is being used to screen this back development by the Actor/Director.

In other words, I am frustrated and feel that the story-arc is monopolized at the moment by a few chosen players.