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Author Topic: [Chronicle] Innocent Faces  (Read 8136 times)

Vincent Pryce

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Re: [Chronicle] Innocent Faces
« Reply #45 on: 22 Aug 2011, 09:41 »

Echoing Lallara here pretty much, both his tl;dr and original post.

His post wasn't really about religion, it was more about pointing out the fact that to the kids slaves were no different from dogs or cats, because they didn't know better and thus the child was still innnocent. From western point of view yeah it's fucked up that they don't see the difference and take away last strips of humanity from the slave by taking his name, but from an Amarrian point of view everything is as it should be in the normal order of things, maybe a little funny and cute that the child would show such affection towards a slave.
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BloodBird

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Re: [Chronicle] Innocent Faces
« Reply #46 on: 25 Aug 2011, 09:44 »

Wowowow, hold your horses, I did NOT want to start a discussion on religion here, but on those kids and how they treat other humans.

It's not really about religion, religion and the Amarrian faith is just how the Empire does things and justify their way of life.

Let me make a comparison for you.

My toon in-game is not innocent. He believes that Serpentis operatives and anyone that works for Sarpathi deserves to be shot or otherwise killed, he does honestly think this is the right thing to do, his justifications are many and varied and highly provable in-universe. His actions are justified from his point of view.

Still, in the world-view of said serpents they are doing a job to feed their kids living in Fountain and elsewhere. My toon KNOWS that these people do what they do because they live in former colony settlements that were taken over and run by what the empires consider to be criminals, and that while the peoples of the Federation suffer due to their 'work', these people have little choice in the matter; they can work for the serpentis corporation that owns EVERYTHING in their entire world, and regulate everything, or face the consequences of saying 'no'. Despite knowing this, he can't forgive them and as such goes out of his way to harm the Serpentis corporation for their crimes against his own people, no matter who among them may suffer and die in the process.

By the standards of his own people (the Intaki of Intaki V) the more naive or soft-hearted might name him a monster or label him 'evil' much as any serpents would - their children will miss their fathers and mothers much as anyone in the Federation, or elsewhere, the serpents hurt will miss theirs. He knows this, but he persists and he goes on, regardless.

The Amarrian girl in the cronicle, is different. She is the daughter of an Amarrian pure-blood in the Empire and has lived her entire, short life (10 years? 12, 14?) with her faith, tought to her from infancy, and with slaves looking out for her. This is her life, it's all she knows and likely as normal as going to school and making friends 'in the free world' would be for anyone of us. The Minmatar Republic don't concern her, if she 'knows' anything about it it's likely to be distorted by her people's view-point. It's effectively an alien society to her, much like the Empire would be quite alien to a free-born Minmatar girl on Pator the same age as this Amarrian. Neither of them know any better, and both are likely to be spoken of as 'evil' 'misguided' 'wrong' and as 'the enemy' by their respective peers. Both are ignorant of the cruel realities of the EVE-universe, this makes both of them innocent.

The clown teaching theology on TV in his own way is not 'corrupting' the children. He teaches them the 'truth' as viewed by the Amarrian Empire in general. The Matari girl on Pator sits down with her friends to listen to elder Matari recant the tales of their people and educate them about their past and culture. This elder is not 'corrupting' her either. He teaches her the 'truth' - from the Matari point of view. If this point of view were that Amarrians are evil and deserve to die for their Empire's crimes, would you say he 'corrupts' this girl too? The Amarrians might - we players should not.
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