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Aria Jenneth

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« on: 14 Nov 2015, 11:54 »

So, trying to do Sojourn: Federation posts is being a little hard. Aria's going to be shifting focus from general statements to specific explorations, and one bit that we've never developed much is something that's likely to be ... uh, pretty widespread in the Federation.

It's pretty well-established, if not very well fleshed-out, canon that capsuleers are celebrities. At a guess, capsuleers in general have both fans and anti-fans, who watch developments with avid interest. There are probably newsletters, focus articles, and so on. The tabloids probably have all sorts of fun-- much of it made up, as it seems likely that being "capsuleer-specialized paparazzi" is a singularly dangerous job.

More generally, it seems likely that most capsuleers have at least a small individual following, while well-known ones probably have a larger, possibly much larger one.

I can think of two ways to do this, and actually I'd like to try merging them. Firstly, each of us probably has some idea of what we'd want and/or expect in a fan base-- so, a brief description of size, makeup, etc., for your own seems appropriate.

However, no one gets to pick their fans, so input on other people's fan bases is also accepted-- but, this being a game, the player whose character is under discussion has veto power. We can start separate threads for different characters if it takes off.

Ideally, I'd like to see any given post address two characters: typically, one's own, and someone else's.

Sound good? I'll start.


Aria:

She's little, she's cute, she's curious, she's publicly visible, she has an exotic background, and she's an amnesiac-- of course Aria has a fan club ... which is probably kind of a problem.

I think most capsuleer fan clubs would be concentrated in the Federation, and Aria's would be no exception. Being formally an enemy (PY-RE, etc.) might slow things down a little, but she's apolitical enough that she's likely not seen too much as an "enemy capsuleer." Generally, club members might be those with an interest in intercultural exploration, alternative (especially Achur) spirituality, and so on. Serious club members might mirror her penchant for wearing black. She probably attracts either bookish/intellectual sorts or people who admire intellectuals ... in one way or another.

And, there begins the bit Aria would probably find mortifying. If I say "fanfic" ... yeah.

Mostly, the issues this would create would be subtle. Embarrassing doujinshi aside, as with many capsuleers, she likely has some trouble escaping attention if moving in heavily-populated areas.

A possibly more dangerous issue is that she's not the only edition of herself. Her old self was also quite visible, but would have attracted a much darker following-- posthuman-cultists, etc.. Aria's fairly publicly declared her intention to undo the "damage" her prior self did; her old self's club may not appreciate  that.


Pieter Tuulinen:

I think Pieter's fan club would (obviously) be concentrated in the Caldari State, but he likely has a following in the Federation as well. (A bit like Irwin Rommel-- an unambiguous enemy who nevertheless commands respect.) Federal attention might not quite rise to the level of "fan club," but more keenly interested observers with the occasional straight-up admirer.

Someone has inevitably "shipped" him with Andreus Ixiris. Probably several someones.
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« Reply #1 on: 15 Nov 2015, 05:05 »

Alright, that's a good idea... However, I'm pretty poor at tabloid representation, I think..

Lyn:

She probably has shifted a lot between her early days as a pro-active capsuleer trying to fit in every faction she came in, taking model, and rapidly growing as a CONCORD enforcer, albeit in her own way. I suppose fans could have seen her as an alternative to the rigid and corrupted form CONCORD could at times wear, while anti-fans would have seen her just like them as a puppet. It has also to be taken in the pre-TEA context when we were still in the aftermath of Doriam and Heideran, and that what she did was a lot more expected than today (meaning, building bridges between opponents, and routing out unlawfulness).

Now though, I would expect that her fanbase to have shrunk a lot. She is mostly inactive in space bare a few minimum things, and her delusions on capsuleer duties, while probably fitting with a lot of baseliners, also combine with a perpetual indecisiveness always prey to doubt and too much objectivity for the sake of objectivity. Since most fanbases are driven by emotion, I don't see her attracting a lot of people, even less than in the past when she was mostly quiet in her shadows. For those she does though, she might be a quiet figure in a lot of scholarly places as well as posthumans that don't hold traditional faction in very high esteem.

But mostly, I would expect that her loss of capsuleer fame (if she had any in the first place, but at least she was active) means that she is not very much considered by fans unless it's in more embarrassing fictions and kinks, especially since she might draw the dandere trope around (because of Shrinking Violet).

I would expect her to mostly draw ire from most of the imperial masses in the Empire, while probably having a certain attraction in unconventional educated circles, and especially scientific venues where traditional beliefs are probably often eschewed in favor of something different.

I suppose that most of her interventions since TEA have probably also made her a target for the average caldari masses, but maybe that her good relationship with I-RED actually bears different results in liberal circles.

For the gallente, she probably have a lot more fans since she spent half her upbringing here. Probably in two different ways: the few fans that love cultural exchange, especially when it's exotic, and the embarrassing ones that love exotic for exotic sake.

As for the minmatar, they probably hate her for most of them due to her being Ammatar by birth, for that not many of them probably know of her admiration for Midular.


Luna:

I think Luna probably has many fans in the Amarr Empire and is probably the role model of all the young amarrian ladies and children. "I want to be like Lunarisse Daphiti when i'm a grown up!"

She might also have inspired a lot of cheesy romance / cloaks and daggers / political B-series, especially in the Federation, about amarrian Holder politics. As well as probably having been shipped with Aldrith Shutaq, the other Amarrian role model Aldrith Shutaq, especially now that he has been made Holder by Aritcio.
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« Reply #2 on: 15 Nov 2015, 12:30 »

Luna:

I think Luna probably has many fans in the Amarr Empire and is probably the role model of all the young amarrian ladies and children. "I want to be like Lunarisse Daphiti when i'm a grown up!"

She might also have inspired a lot of cheesy romance / cloaks and daggers / political B-series, especially in the Federation, about amarrian Holder politics. As well as probably having been shipped with Aldrith Shutaq, the other Amarrian role model Aldrith Shutaq, especially now that he has been made Holder by Aritcio.

But he's married-- to an admiral, no less! If their love were ever discovered....

Heeehehehehee. Yeah, the Federation would be all over that. So might a fair few Amarr. People are people, and people are pervs. Especially those who aren't supposed to be. Actually, being as the Amarr outlaw pornography generally, the stuff that is there probably makes a bodice-ripping extramarital romance look pretty tame by comparison.

Hrm. There's a question: lurid romance novels and the like (laden with "good bits") are a traditional method of circumventing societal norms forbidding straight-up smut. The Amarr are moralistic and prudish, but do you suppose the MIO, etc., might choose to overlook the content of such things? If so, the majority of "fanfic" in this area might even be Amarrian-- albeit probably written under a pen name, for safety's sake.

Does that seem likely to you?


Lyn:

She probably has shifted a lot between her early days as a pro-active capsuleer trying to fit in every faction she came in, taking model, and rapidly growing as a CONCORD enforcer, albeit in her own way. I suppose fans could have seen her as an alternative to the rigid and corrupted form CONCORD could at times wear, while anti-fans would have seen her just like them as a puppet. It has also to be taken in the pre-TEA context when we were still in the aftermath of Doriam and Heideran, and that what she did was a lot more expected than today (meaning, building bridges between opponents, and routing out unlawfulness).

Now though, I would expect that her fanbase to have shrunk a lot. She is mostly inactive in space bare a few minimum things, and her delusions on capsuleer duties, while probably fitting with a lot of baseliners, also combine with a perpetual indecisiveness always prey to doubt and too much objectivity for the sake of objectivity. Since most fanbases are driven by emotion, I don't see her attracting a lot of people, even less than in the past when she was mostly quiet in her shadows. For those she does though, she might be a quiet figure in a lot of scholarly places as well as posthumans that don't hold traditional faction in very high esteem.

But mostly, I would expect that her loss of capsuleer fame (if she had any in the first place, but at least she was active) means that she is not very much considered by fans unless it's in more embarrassing fictions and kinks, especially since she might draw the dandere trope around (because of Shrinking Violet).

I would expect her to mostly draw ire from most of the imperial masses in the Empire, while probably having a certain attraction in unconventional educated circles, and especially scientific venues where traditional beliefs are probably often eschewed in favor of something different.

I suppose that most of her interventions since TEA have probably also made her a target for the average caldari masses, but maybe that her good relationship with I-RED actually bears different results in liberal circles.

For the gallente, she probably have a lot more fans since she spent half her upbringing here. Probably in two different ways: the few fans that love cultural exchange, especially when it's exotic, and the embarrassing ones that love exotic for exotic sake.

As for the minmatar, they probably hate her for most of them due to her being Ammatar by birth, for that not many of them probably know of her admiration for Midular.

Hrm. You're likely right about the ebb and flow of the thing. Lyn comes off as profoundly frustrated by multiple persistent aspects of the world, and frustration isn't especially inspiring.

Considering her vocally unorthodox take on the Amarrian faith, there may even be calls for her (and even SFRIM generally) to be investigated  for heresy. But, yeah, I could see her views being intriguing to certain of the more reformist students, etc.. That same fierce independent-mindedness may act as a partial antidote to the dandere/Shrinking Violet tropes.
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« Reply #3 on: 15 Nov 2015, 15:41 »

Oh yes, that sure seems likely, even without pen names for the author... I would expect Amarrian censorship not to bother and smile/grin at that kind of things as long as it remains harmless, especially  with a comedy value, or a lurid side.

I mean in our own history, we had plenty of more or less scandalous works that got a lot of success with more daring things breaking the norms and limits, or being outright shocking, as long as it remains in a non political tone... I'm not even sure the Amarr are that much into heavy handed censorship to begin with...

I would expect them to frown heavily upon pleb novels and other works though. You know, much like people praised the usual works of Shakespeare and what was considered to be of good taste and paramount to the 'best', while frowning a lot on pieces like Figaro that were, after all, written with a more laid-back, vulgar approach, and so outright labelled as "for the uneducated plebs".

Which didn't prevent the aristocracy to go watch the play and have a lot of fun.

Or, like every musical piece that wasn't german/austrian/italian was considered of low caliber and vulgar too. I would expect foreign stuff to often fall in that category in the Amarr Empire.
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« Reply #4 on: 15 Nov 2015, 18:04 »

Over the course of the past year I've been sporadically adding flesh to Vel in her DED profile via post modifications. Further I'm not that prone to sharing Vel's IC life too much in OOC environments. Equally i tend toward a balance between the extremes of Grim Dark & Sesame Street in how i see Eve / tend to play things out. Yet fan clubs? Personal IC PR & Consequences? There's thought.

Vel:

Well, in recent years she's spent an awful lot of time in logistics ships or battleships when taking vessels into counter Sansha operations. While her kill report record is hardly stellar, with many more losses than capsuleer ship kills, on average her crews typically survive their tours. Those who've been lost or medically incapacitated have received generous retirement packages, funeral services, end of life insurance coverage payouts to family/next of kin, and personally handwritten letters of condolence. Even if the unavoidable time required to do so for the several battleship crews might have been excessive.

Velarra doesn't generally go out of her way to play the stage be it on the summit or other venues for its own sake and that i suppose would lead her into being viewed through the lens of some of the trope territory suggested earlier by Lyn.

Aside from counter Sansha operations, she's been somewhat off the pop-culture radar i would suppose. There really are so many other much more flamboyant and publicly active Capsuleers to love or loathe. At worst there was a story that she spent a night partying with a popular local rock band, while on Sortet IV. The story made the local Sortet IV tabloid rounds a bit, yet ultimately nothing ever really came of it beyond the fact that someone vaguely fitting her description was poorly photographed in the same hotel the band was staying at and having a rather wild party into the early hours of the morning. Velarra's Federation based publicist eventually released a small location specific statement on Sortet IV denying Velarra's presence at the hotel suggesting it was all simply a matter of the band seeking attention through association.

Outside of empire space, within purely baseline circles she certainly has been forward at a personal level about engaging with Curses' civilian populations. In particular she has focused on linking her Capsuleer reputation, and ties to the Angels with her overseeing the development and awareness of social, health and educational services/institutions for the betterment of the baseline populations in the region. Whether it has been via providing vaccination programs or other health services, made known of via numerous local media sources, new school openings, and related employment opportunities, she has certainly focused on playing the role of a socially acceptable Angel within less militant circles.

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Morwen:

I'm going to suggest that there are likely those who look quite favorably upon Morwen for her past humanitarian relief efforts, as well as organizational talents of a scientific sort. In particular involvement with AJ, and even Syne if one's a fan who appreciates the sciences and the good Capsuleers can be responsible for when disasters occur.

I would imagine these things would be tempered by her earlier history of piracy and acute martial prowess.

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I'm really the sort who tends to fade into the RP scene and then slip away losing track of who's involved in what or RPing which story arc. As a result i'm a little out of the loop of everyone's characters and respective histories to fairly select someone to develop a fanbase for. Here's hoping the above is respectfully decent.
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« Reply #5 on: 15 Nov 2015, 19:46 »

Elmund Egivand does not believe that he has a fan club of any description. If anyone mentions it to him, he will just stare blankly at the insinuator, probably thinking that the fellow drank one glass too many that night. It also helped that he had walked the long corridors of Dodixie and Jita 4-4 without being recognised by any baseliner who isn't already an acquaintance. That only helped to reinforce the idea that he isn't famous or popular enough to have a band of roadies hounding his footsteps.

However, as he had learnt from the reports of that incident on his plasma world colony, there are individuals within the baseliner population who are scrutinising his activities and are taking too much interest in his pet projects, which he thought was kept well enough out of public eye. He is still getting used to the idea that a someone somewhere is interested in his activities enough to actually take the trouble finding out what he was up to and was willing to risk their lives to infiltrate his property to try and dig up some info.
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« Reply #6 on: 16 Nov 2015, 03:18 »

Oh i'm sure Elmund has many more or less faithful cults around the worship of the machine spirit  :D
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« Reply #7 on: 16 Nov 2015, 09:15 »

Thou shalt bless the bolt of holiness with sacred oils?

Anyways, Utari I'm certain lives in a dillusion of having absolutely no issues with fanclubs, and probably pays them little to no heed. This has been reinforced by two factors. One, he spent a lot of time in Anoikis and therefore isolated from the rest of the Cluster. And two, he lives in the "nice" bit of the EFA station, where his corridor neighbours are all non-titled nobility and Holders. Generally, these types know not to stick noses into other people's business directly, and I can assume security would be fairly tight (much like a gated community for celebrities?)

His main stay appeal would be among the conservative liberals of the Empire and other Caldari ex-pats (Khaldari? Converts within the Empire?)

I could imagine he'd have plenty of anti-fans within the State, and possibly a small following in the Federation thanks to his brief stay there while missioning in hisec, and his work with the PPC.

Samira Kernher:

Most commoner Ultra Conservative types/freed slaves with a religious bend would be big fans, especially with her forthright attitude. I think many conservative Holders however would frown a little that a minmatar would be trying to speak so often on behalf of the Empire/Ardishapur, but probably would be nodding along and agreeing with much of it. She'd have a large anti-fan/hate club within the Kingdom.

I think her standing would be a little messy in the Republic. Maybe a bit of a following for her making the most of her life within the Empire and enduring, maybe a little hate as a possible "traitor?" I'm not confident enough with the Minmatar perspective to colour that further though.

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« Reply #8 on: 16 Nov 2015, 10:34 »

One question likely to pervade capsuleer fandom is how far the fandom is tangled up in the bloodshed. Even outside of the Alliance Tournament-- is your crew tapping into your camera drone footage and selling it?

"That move! DID YOU SEE THAT MOVE! And then that battleship is just like, KAFWOOM!"

"Dude, you can totally see somebody's severed foot at frame 2421010. I've attached an image for proof. Look really close at grid A3...."




Moving on, two obvious fandoms Aria's would intersect with: Lyn's and Utari's.

Aria's kinda-sorta romance with Utari is fairly ripe tabloid fare, and never mind that it seems to be stuck at the "wistful yearning" stage. Naturally, that's boring for any salacious gossip rag. Their meeting on Caldari Prime is inevitably going to be made into much more, at least in the gutter press. What Utari's fandom thinks of the situation is likely to be a bit divided-- especially as (I think) he's seeing someone else. Which side Utari's fandom lines up on re: all of this likely depends on its view of Aria. If she's seen as a corrupter, then she's a dangerous person Utari should stay away from. If she's just a lost soul needing guidance, though....

Aria's is probably divided largely based on what the membership thinks of Lyn Farel (speaking of "shipping"). The two are obvious close friends (Aria addresses her as "suuolo"), and there's apt to be all kinds of Sapphic fic out there by now in which someone's true feelings get confessed/acted upon in a variety of more or less compromising positions. This may have helped to perk up Lyn's fan base somewhat (for good or ill).

As a side note, I'd expect Utari to have buckets of fans in the Empire (everybody loves to see their culture validated), but I also would think he'd have a largish following in the Federation. He's got an interesting and pretty sympathetic story, and his choice of the Amarrian culture over the Caldari stands as an implicit rejection of (outside observer's obvious first thought) the latter's policy on persons of mixed blood. He could seem from a distance to have walked out of a book (something full of duty, personal tragedy, and stiff upper lips).
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« Reply #9 on: 16 Nov 2015, 10:53 »

Quite a fair point Aria, I'd agree with it. And yes, Utari is definatly still seeing someone at this stage.

I think, after talking to Morwen on slack, he might start to have issues with fans since his appearance in the Amarr Championship. It's certainatly raised his profile more upfront, but not as much had Laerise's team won ( :( we wuz robbed)
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« Reply #10 on: 16 Nov 2015, 11:20 »

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Aria's is probably divided largely based on what the membership thinks of Lyn Farel (speaking of "shipping"). The two are obvious close friends (Aria addresses her as "suuolo"), and there's apt to be all kinds of Sapphic fic out there by now in which someone's true feelings get confessed/acted upon in a variety of more or less compromising positions. This may have helped to perk up Lyn's fan base somewhat (for good or ill).

You have no idea the mess it creates in her mind...
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« Reply #11 on: 16 Nov 2015, 13:05 »

Though Samira takes effort to stay out of the limelight, her vocal participation on venues like the Intergalactic Summit and her membership with already-famous PIE mean she's attracted a diverse range of opinions, ships, and support or hate groups.

Principal of Samira's fans are current or freed slaves who uphold the Amarrian religion, in both Amarr and Minmatar space. She is one of the most prominent Amarr-loyal emancipated minmatar and engages in pro-slave activism and so anyone from those lower classes that is looking for a rolemodel is quick to point to her as an example of the heights to which even a slave can rise. Not everyone agrees on her politics, of course, but even progressive observers are able to at least find some appeal in her successful career.

But not everyone is a fan. Nobility may or may not agree with her politics, but many feel threatened by the ramifications of low-born success stories. True Amarr of all social classes can be especially vehement, especially those of common or slave origin. Rather than being a rolemodel, to them Samira is a thief, the classic "stealing our jerbs" mindset that stems of watching someone that should be inferior achieving far greater social and economic success. Regardless of how conservative Samira's beliefs, these envious groups see her instead as an example of the Empire's failing ways and demand that she learn her place.

Samira's reputation in the Kingdom and the Republic is also bad. Residents of the Kingdom have not taken kindly to her many recent attacks on their king and culture, and whatever groups there that did once support her have likely distanced themselves by now. In the Republic, Samira is viewed as a race traitor in the same light as the Ammatar, and she is often used as an example of just how evil Amarrian indoctrination is.

Samira's prominence in intimate circles is somewhat high, resulting from a combination of her publicly prudish and sexually awkward behavior and her physical attractiveness. She's been shipped with associates of various allegiances and both genders, ranging from Pieter Tuulinen, to Aldrith Shutaq, to Ava Starfire, and there exists a range of fabricated erotic or semi-erotic material. Those of invasive, more-than-casual interest have unearthed parts of her private life that she'd rather remain hidden, including her frentix addiction and her presumed-intimate liaisons with such mercenary capsuleers as Jude Kopenhagen, Hevaima Gesakaarin, and Vincent Pryce.

Samira attempts to distance herself from any fandoms, and only rarely directly interacts with them. She's hired a press group to handle any necessary correspondence, and she has recently employed a security team to protect herself from untoward baseline interest. She is as well in the process of securing an isolated estate, after undesired attention on her previous public dwellings.
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« Reply #12 on: 16 Nov 2015, 21:01 »

Oh i'm sure Elmund has many more or less faithful cults around the worship of the machine spirit  :D

I imagine that cults that spring up around Elmund would be less Adeptus Mechanicus and alot closer to being some kind of Techno-centric tribes with Machine Totems (or Machines treated as Totems) and stuff. They will believe that all Machines have Souls, or Spirits or whatever, bound to them (and thus the Machine's body is the Totem of the individual Machine Spirits), and that they will always try to interact with Man and the Material Realm by whatever means available such as actuators, or if lacking actuators, via more subtle means like unexplained short circuits, spikes in voltmeter readings, variations of thermal distribution, outright not working etc. Anyone who has ever reached their wits' ends trying to get a machine to work and occasionally resorting to praying for the machine to work know what I'm talking about.

 They will also believe that the Spirits have their own thoughts and wills and the best way to bring out their fullest potential is to understand their desires and wills and to work towards aligning personal interests and wills with the Machine's and to design, optimise and use the Machine's material body in alignment with the will and desires of their Spirit.

The 'tribesmen' will have regular communing with the Machines, ritualistic maintenance, Wiki-walks, consulting the Supercomputer, wearing Machine-inspired tattoos and being obsessed with fabrication, invention and optimisation. The successful fabrication of pieces of working technology will be treated as a venerable occasion with rituals similar to the Baptising of infants.

The Shamans would be the ones with the phDs or something, the guys who really understand the most complicated of technologies and how to fabricate them and utilise them, and how to convince the most stubborn of Machine Spirits to act in ways the Machine may not agree with initially as part of the process to reach their combined goals.
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« Reply #13 on: 17 Nov 2015, 11:20 »

Oh i'm sure Elmund has many more or less faithful cults around the worship of the machine spirit  :D

I imagine that cults that spring up around Elmund would be less Adeptus Mechanicus and alot closer to being some kind of Techno-centric tribes with Machine Totems (or Machines treated as Totems) and stuff. They will believe that all Machines have Souls, or Spirits or whatever, bound to them (and thus the Machine's body is the Totem of the individual Machine Spirits), and that they will always try to interact with Man and the Material Realm by whatever means available such as actuators, or if lacking actuators, via more subtle means like unexplained short circuits, spikes in voltmeter readings, variations of thermal distribution, outright not working etc. Anyone who has ever reached their wits' ends trying to get a machine to work and occasionally resorting to praying for the machine to work know what I'm talking about.

 They will also believe that the Spirits have their own thoughts and wills and the best way to bring out their fullest potential is to understand their desires and wills and to work towards aligning personal interests and wills with the Machine's and to design, optimise and use the Machine's material body in alignment with the will and desires of their Spirit.

The 'tribesmen' will have regular communing with the Machines, ritualistic maintenance, Wiki-walks, consulting the Supercomputer, wearing Machine-inspired tattoos and being obsessed with fabrication, invention and optimisation. The successful fabrication of pieces of working technology will be treated as a venerable occasion with rituals similar to the Baptising of infants.

The Shamans would be the ones with the phDs or something, the guys who really understand the most complicated of technologies and how to fabricate them and utilise them, and how to convince the most stubborn of Machine Spirits to act in ways the Machine may not agree with initially as part of the process to reach their combined goals.

I'm not so sure about cults, but I think Elmund's "gimmick" in this area probably does garner him some attention. Also, I'd think his plain-spoken, unapologetic approach to things, including himself (self-described bully, etc.) would appeal to a certain segment. Maybe not the segment he'd want in all cases (taking brutal honesty as its own reward).

Elmund running into a (probably young male) fan trying to impress him by acting like said fan thinks Elmund acts could be a great scene.
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« Reply #14 on: 17 Nov 2015, 14:10 »

Pieter's unabashed patriotism for the State means that he probably 'puts off' many fans whose political views clash with his, nonetheless he has exhibited tendencies of support and sympathy for Amarrian, Gallentean and Minmatar causes that probably create sufficient ambiguity to allow fandom enough of a niche to take root.

One aspect Pieter's fandom has that perhaps differentiates it from the others discussed thus far is that it is probably staged, manipulated and shaped by Corporate Interests. Pieter loudly repudiated Heth during his fall and his Corporation probably seized upon this to use him as a poster boy in the Post-Hethian "Oritsu Reconstruction" period. Added to that we have his StatePro "Rookie of the Year YC116" status.

As a Caldari his charitable work is barely publicised, but it's possible that people have found out about the benefits his crews have and about the Tuulinen Foundation's work with the disadvantaged, giving non-Criminal Disaffected second chances and working to provide security for the Aurora Arcology.

Pieter has likely been shipped with almost anyone in the public eye, due to his reputation pre-marriage. Likely ships include Red Miromme, Punx Evangeline, Ava Starfire, Kyllsa Siikanen, Samira Kernher, Diana Kim, Both parties in the Charantes-Oniseki marriage, Andreus Ixiris, Jude Copenhagen, Stitcher and Anslo. He has never cheated on his spouse, however, so may also be considered a rolemodel for traditional Caldari Family Values.

Aria:- She has to have a small sect of monks examining how she has developed her life from a state of complete detachment to the present. There will be meditation and minute examination of her public appearances to determine the psychological impact of her various periods of experimentation and assessment.

Samira Kernher:- If she isn't the Patron Saint of Matari slaves who elect to remain within the Empire then I want to know why. If she isn't the Arch-Devil of Matari slaves who elect to leave the Empire then I want to know why.

Aldrith Shutaq:- Isn't his haircut one of the 30 acceptable hairstyles for Seminarians joining the Amarrian Clergy?

Mitara Newelle:- Mother, Leader, Warrior. Why isn't this woman the subject of a cult? "Mother Mitara, Full of Wrath, Blessed art thou...'.

Stitcher:- Sports personality. His Splinterz team forums will be full of gossip and speculation.

Andreus Ixiris:- Continually skating the line between political commentator, military hero and society figure. Expect the needle to be swinging wildly between adulation, scandal and redemption. Expect his fandom to have a high turnover but a dedicated base who claim he's misunderstood.

Anslo Tetua:- He's a musician. He's released albums. He gigs - or used to until recently. His meltdown when he embraced violence as the best means of expressing himself probably ranks up there with Britney shaving her head - only with Mass Murder! He's never not cracking contraversial quips that make excellent media soundbytes. How can he not have a following?
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