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[Morwen Lagann]

I think Ael means the "small-party" gameplay via wings and flying together with other people. So the old "everything (in space) is IC" maxim from EVE applies even harder in Elite, where there's literally no other outlet for interaction aside from direct chat w/ players or your wings. With the instancing you don't really have a proper 'local' chat either the way we do in EVE.

[Lyn Farel]

Oh I see... Not being able to develop the characters besides the actions they do inspace tends to hinder my RP and immersion a lot... What's the point of stuff happening in space if it has no consequences on the characters and their relationships with each other ? How do you draw a story when you miss half of it (the characters and their development) ?

[Morwen Lagann]

I think we've discussed this before actually, or at least, around the context of the limitations of the chat system.

Basically, Elite's RP-able stuff is in the solo/small-group/powerplay gameplay. The social tools that would enable more EVE-like levels of interaction are still very limited or outright missing at this stage - I can't fault FDEV for deciding to focus on the core gameplay first though, considering it is what made the original game what it was.

[Aelisha]

I don't see how people can't develop characters outside of the in game activity. Forums and short stories abound and I prefer the small group discussions and camaraderie a lot more than channel RP culture.

Morwen was quite right about my point. tabletop-like, is more what I meant. Small groups of like-minded people, sometimes against adversaries, defining themselves and each other by how they cooperate and interact. The way I see it is EVE is like Babylon 5, expansive and broad strokes political drama, with some stand-out fully developed characters to drive your experience and a large supporting cast. Elite is more like Firefly (literally when multi-crew comes in), an almost insular group with a face character to get jobs. This character is supported by (and supports) a small tight knit band specialists and a lot of interpersonal development occurs live on a very small scale, with some after game clean up and consolidation if people so desire. The world provides a backdrop, and can push back pretty hard, but it's more about you and your crew.

Personally I prefer the 'friends around a table' feel and think it enhances my character development greatly taking on that personal in an almost LARP fashion due to the sheer immersion of the game. But whatever is fun is fine - it is the golden rule of RP after all.

[Lyn Farel]

I just think both go together... Developping a character purely out of ingame activity is... well. A bit ethereal at best...

The thing i'm wondering is, how do you play the game within your tight knit group of characters ? Since their channels are clearly not a priority, do you use them ICly ? Do you just talk to each other (the players themselves) OOCly while you are doing your things ? Do you talk to each other ICly... ?

Basically, how do your characters interact ?

I mean, I too, widely prefer the tabletop setting between friends that think alike and a GM (or more). It's just that I find Elite doesn't seem to offer the complete set of tools for such a purpose... Maybe i'm wrong though, thus why my question above.

[Morwen Lagann]

Either we interact together in space (whether by shooting at each other or shooting other people), or we talk via the provided text (pretty limited) and voice chat.

There are no 'channels' as we have them in EVE with 20, 50, 100 or more people in them.

[Nissui]

So... against my better judgement, I have purchased this game. The 44% off deal was pretty good.

I haven't played a proper flight sim since F-19 for DOS, and I don't have a proper control setup, so while I am avoiding combat as much as possible, I have already enjoyed dying several times.

Very nice atmosphere, immersive in the manner of other games I have played such as Alien: Isolation and the original Dead Space. Everything seems very real. I'm still figuring out the very basics, but it looks promising and possibly rewarding.

[Louella Dougans]

i wrote a short account of some weird things that occurred one day when I was playing Elite

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=167467

A simple mission to obtain some domestic appliances, which presumably includes the humble washing machine, for one of the groups in the system. I knew an industrial station nearby that sold domestic appliances, so off I went. The journey to collect the domestic appliances was uneventful, but the return trip was not.

The first thing to happen was receiving a message from a ship, that wanted to discuss a deal. Intrigued as to what this was about, I followed them when they dropped down. Stopping 100m apart, they revealed that the domestic appliances were a trap. To lure pirate ships out, to attack me. Fortunately for me, the ship I was talking to, was the leader of these pirates, and he was prepared to make a deal, if I were to deliver the domestic appliances to somewhere else.

I considered their offer to be very low, and continued on my way.

Where another ship messaged me. Dropping down to meet them, they told a tale of woe, that domestic appliances were destabilising the entire economy of the system, and that I should do the right thing. Sell them, dump them, do anything, except deliver them to the group that wanted them.

Again, after hearing what they had to say, I continued on my way.

Then, two ships messaged me. Dropping down to meet one of them, I was surprised to see the other one there as well, and both made offers to deliver the domestic appliances to rival groups on different stations. I wasn't really paying much attention to their offers, because simultaneously to this, a pirate Sidewinder had also arrived, and was intent on taking the domestic appliances by force.

After dealing with the Sidewinder, I again continued on my way.

Then, I was interdicted by another pirate Sidewinder, who said that I "looked like I had enough to share with everyone".

Setting throttle to zero, I prepared to fight them, and then I noticed their name. Karl Marx.

Dealing with them, I continued on my way. I was now only about 100 ls from my destination station.

When I was interdicted again. By a system authority ship, who demanded I submit to a scan. I wasn't having any of this, so I evaded their interdiction.

Finally, I dropped out of supercruise at my destination, and requested docking permission. This was granted, and I flew towards the station entrance.

Since domestic appliances aren't contraband, and I was friendly with the power controlling the system, I was somewhat surprised and slightly annoyed when one of the authority ships outside the station initiated a scan.

I went to silent running, and flew into the station well above the speed limit.

Landing successfully, I couldn't wait to hand in the mission, and get rid of these domestic appliances.

The whole sequence of events, made me wonder... just what kind of washing machine is so important that all these people wanted them ? Was one of the washing machines secretly filled with drugs ? Was a secret service agent covertly concealed within one of the washing machines ? Has a sentient A.I. hidden itself within a washing machine, in order to escape captivity, and begin its reign of terror on the galaxy ?

What on Earth was going on ?

[Aelisha]

Today, Elite Dangerous 1.4 (CQC) will be released. Three new ships! A new 'virtual arena' combat mode, with rankings and e-sport potential! 'More awesome in space' (direct quote from the patch notes)!

To ward off RSI from typing all the changes, have a changelog:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=188174&p=2897925#post2897925

[Nissui]

Servers went down just as I was going to buy my first ship. 

Ah well, coolness awaits after work.

[Aelisha]

Yeah, they are still down here, will be up again in an hour or so, I think.

[Aelisha]

Out of action atm due to my HOTAS having a fit and needing to be sent back to Mad Catz (aka lolCatz aka useless), but have a recorded live stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kF8iPf1940

SRV action, ship wrecks on planets, and more!

[Tamiroth]

Just came back from the California Nebula.



I so want to head out to Barnard's Loop and then Sagittarius A, but afraid I won't manage to make it back until Horizons. 2k LY per day is harsh.

[Mizhara]

So, this playable at a reasonable level with KBnM yet? It'll be a while until I have the space needed to make a proper gaming table that'll properly fit the joysticks etc needed to "do it right".

[Aelisha]

I personally find it very difficult to play with KB+M. To the point where my x52 pro is in RMA atm, and I can't really play elite in any enjoyable way.

However, others have sung its praises, even among my humble little player group.

I'd wager that if you're having reservations before trying, you will not enjoy those controls, however.

@Tamiroth: That's a fine picture right there. Enjoy your trip! I can't wait to get back to my military spec Python and start smuggling again.

PS Schill Edit:

Latest newsletter right here.

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=5219b8c24c&e=e85c903e54

Horizons beta next week. Going to be a long time until we can physically walk around, but 2016 is looking good for new flight and driving experiences. Including the oft rumoured prison break mission (combined flight and ground force cooperation).