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[Graelyn]

Just wondering, I hadn't seen it floating around.

[Ghost Hunter]

Just wondering, I hadn't seen it floating around.

*the bane of Ghost's existence*

*Ghost Hunter looks at the some 1,700 people taken from that one battlecruiser wreck Harvest

I have a feeling I am going to be redoing a lot of numbers.

[Graelyn]

According to the presentation, a functioning ship is in the Max category, while minimums are, like, unfitted ships.

[Ghost Hunter]

According to the presentation, a functioning ship is in the Max category, while minimums are, like, unfitted ships.

What purpose does the Max Capacity serve when all types of passengers are regulated to the cargo bay size?

Full cargo bay = max capacity? etc.

I like minimum being unfit ships, versus max being active ships.

[Graelyn]

Ugh, turns out someone had posted it on EVEFiction... Doh.

[Akrasjel Lanate]

Saw that.

[Mithfindel]

It is from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJfiQ43Adsg. (Heh at the content warning: Violence.)

Minimum crew: Unfit ship flying around.
Maximum crew: Ship, with people manning the modules and a usual passenger compartment.

Of course, you can likely stretch it - cargo expanded Industrial can take a whole lot of people in slave ship conditions, but that's not what they're designed to do (unless you're flying Amarr).

[Saede Riordan]

So The Caldari have a larger crew on their ships then the Amarr...what.

[Julianus Soter]

Gallente rely more on automation, have larger crew quarters per volume. Caldari have caskets as crew quarters. Minmatar. . . don't have crew quarters? hope they're able to stay awake long enough to reach the target?

[GoGo Yubari]

Very nice. I see they have toned down the numbers quite considerably... which I must admit is a good thing. I'm glad there is an option for the "I don't want any crew!" crowd to be happy as well. Sensible and useful stuff all over.

Only gripe is the wide differences between the low and high end numbers of the minimum requirements, which will allow the "NO CREW!" RPer to say that his Brutix can run with just 15 people, while the "LOLCREW" RPer will need to have all of 80 people on board. Just a bit too much gap between the numbers, allowing for a wider gap between the paradigms of these two sets of folks, resulting in that a PF opportunity to resolve their differing viewpoints is lost.

[Saede Riordan]

Yeah GoGo is right, I rather wished the numbers were more detailed and not just what is clearly a very rough estimate here.

[Mathra Hiede]

Yeahh..... I would have thought it would be something more like

Amarr +20%
Minmatar +10%
Gallente +5%
Caldari -Null

Logic being
- Amarr use hoards of slave labour for the large heavy tasks (Capboosters are huge!)
- Minmatar (like Tony said) do everything the hard way, but with an emphasis (mostly) on speed and agility,  slightly less than a small army is needed when compared to an Amarrian ship
- Gallente are still quite a populous race, although I am dubious about making them +5% because well - from a chron a while back and I forget which one, but essentially the navy is struggling to recruit and I would assume that dictates ship design, and the drone argument that Tony mentioned
- Caldari, extreme population deficiency and focused on high levels of education and specilisation so less crew, more computers and mainly tech-sperts making sure things are running.

As for crew numbers - I also was thinking that while it mentions a minimum crew for a capsuleer.
What about the Max? shouldn't that STILL be less as well?

[lallara zhuul]

Capsuleer is part of the hardware of the ship.

Because you have one, you need less computers, not less personnel to run the ship.

[Mathra Hiede]

Capsuleer is part of the hardware of the ship.

Because you have one, you need less computers, not less personnel to run the ship.

Hmm.
Fair enough I suppose - I did however think that was at least part of what the Pod did, to reduce the max crew by handling those things, but maybe I got it backwards.

[Ishukone Ratter]

Capsuleer is part of the hardware of the ship.

Because you have one, you need less computers, not less personnel to run the ship.

Hmm.
Fair enough I suppose - I did however think that was at least part of what the Pod did, to reduce the max crew by handling those things, but maybe I got it backwards.

I'm pretty sure a pod would reduce the crew needed as, from my understanding at least, it removes the need for most command crew and I imagine a lot of the people whose job it was to push a button to make the ship do something.