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Author Topic: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?  (Read 6647 times)

Shintoko Akahoshi

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Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:03 »

I've personally been enjoying the hell out of the Colelie mudslinging. It's given a bit of realism and complexity to the Federation-Republic relationship, and it seems like a realistic sort of thing to have happen (keep in mind we're talking about somewhere between 6-10 as many deaths as in the 9/11 attacks, on the Federation side alone, and we all know what sort of response came out of 9/11...). It's also helped provide some needed depth to Shin, as well as catalyzing a change in the way I RP her.

That said, if it's really turned into the sort of thing where the rest of you would simply rather the issue be dropped, I am OOCly willing to do so. Chime in here, please.

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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #1 on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:05 »

No. I like it, and if it helps the development of your character and there's still some more to be had - keep going!

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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #2 on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:07 »

(Ignore this, please. I don't do polls much, and mis-viewed something)

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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #3 on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:16 »

As long as people keep responding to it, hell no, keep going with it.

You don't have to keep going at it from the same angle; as Shin goes through different stages of grief (assuming she's still doing that) regarding her friend, tweak the way she attacks the issue to go with it.

It only becomes beating a dead horse when people stop responding to it in any fashion but to tell you you're beating a dead horse. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Kata. :P)
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #4 on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:18 »

Shin, if you're having fun, continue with it. I was just using Colelie as an example because it's recent, and it's part of what Ava was referring to as dog-piling on minmatar earlier in that thread.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #5 on: 01 Aug 2013, 12:37 »

No, it's deeply part of the character.

Lyn, even if mostly tranquil and not emotional at all, was quite vitriolic when Colelie happened (though not as much as Cael), but she stopped quickly since it doesn't make sense for a character that is completely unable to hold grudges to continue to hold some. Especially since she had no stake in it at all. If it wasn't deeply rooted in Shin, it maybe would have been better to drop it after all this time yes, but not for Shin. That's the point.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #6 on: 01 Aug 2013, 13:32 »

As long as people keep responding to it, hell no, keep going with it.

You don't have to keep going at it from the same angle; as Shin goes through different stages of grief (assuming she's still doing that) regarding her friend, tweak the way she attacks the issue to go with it.

It only becomes beating a dead horse when people stop responding to it in any fashion but to tell you you're beating a dead horse. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Kata. :P)

This pretty much. If its fun for you, keep it up.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #7 on: 01 Aug 2013, 15:23 »

+1 to what other folks have been saying.  I'm mildly grouchy about the whole Colelie situation due to increasingly suspecting that CCP is just going to forget to have any consequences, but I'm all for keeping at this thing if you've still got the energy and the interest.  Reppy's got your back.

And who knows, maybe if we keep the topic up there, somebody will remember to tidy up :P
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #8 on: 01 Aug 2013, 15:32 »

I admit I've not read the IGS to deeply, but Shin seems to be intelligently criticizing the Shakor administration and the specific fleet commanders of that force rather than bandwagoning onto a general "Republic r teh ebils" sentiment.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #9 on: 01 Aug 2013, 15:39 »

No, she shouldn't drop her obsession. Blood for the blood god, and all that.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #10 on: 01 Aug 2013, 15:52 »

Think about what would happen if the US invaded Russia, sank a chunk of the Black Sea fleet and lost the Pacific Fleet trying to repatriate Snowden.

Think about how America's enemies and allies would react.

No, Shin shouldn't drop it. I'm surprised more Federation loyalists and burning with incandescent rage.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #11 on: 02 Aug 2013, 08:40 »

Why should she? It's an important issue.

That having been said she won't have Andrea to spar with unless there is some further development, I'm pretty bored of it due to not having anything new to chew on.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #12 on: 02 Aug 2013, 08:49 »

[...] not having anything new to chew on.

You were saying? :3
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #13 on: 02 Aug 2013, 08:58 »

I was saying before in OOC how much I love this storyline and what it did on an international relations level. My new Fed nationalist character is perhaps too new to jump right on in on this but I absolutely support the rest of the Gallente Gang getting on and going to town politically on the Republic.

It's good to see.
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Re: Should Shin drop her obsession on Colelie?
« Reply #14 on: 04 Aug 2013, 02:10 »

I'm going to give the IC=OOC crowd some credibility, by noting that everyone who has voiced pro "keep on flying the flag for colelie" opinions are either players of characters who support that position, or don't care but are anti-minmatar. *tinfoil*

Just to clarify my own position. I'm fine with people doing whatever. Shin: you're having fun and you are making an impact on the RP scene. Have fun and keep doing that. Your entertainment as a player keeps you involved. That keeps the RP scene alive.

Colelie is a CCP generated plot magnet, have fun with it. What I'm against is having six forum threads about the same thing. Most started as seperate subjects, but they end up with characters arguing the same stuff, often in parallel with other threads. That get's to be disappointing.

The latest CCP article about the SDII dragging off a Brutor for killing people in self defence is only tangentially related to Colelie or the Bloody Hands. But immediately it becomes a forum for those topics. WTB some characters who are as up in arms about threats against freedoms.
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