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[Katrina Oniseki]

So, let's say our TonyG concerns are finally addressed.

Heth is eliminated, megacorporate control restored. Jamyl is exorcised, becomes a stable leader again. You know the drill. Whatever it is you'd like to see 'fixed' and such. Your chosen faction is returned to a status of credibility and capability. No more derp. No more herp.

What then? What, after all is said and done... would you like to see next? What can you reasonably expect after the removal of deus ex machina, jovian nanite superweapons, lesbian orgy posessed crazies and forklift drivers? What news events can you consider worthy of driving the EVE story forward?

For all our whining we do about TonyG, what else is there to push the story forward? This isn't a challenge to you, mind you. I dislike his lore as much as many of you... but I wonder what will come next? Would my faction be defined by boring stock reports and occasional product releases? What would be our big story hook?

[Sepherim]

Political tensions, conflicts, wars,... there are thousands of plotlines possible that don't need anything of the shit Tony G introduced. Hell, you could probably tell the full TEA without using almost any deus ex.

So, Houses fighting in the Empire, corporations spying and cutting eachother, sabik holding rituals, election frauds in the Federation, balkanization along tribe lines of the Republic... you name it! I'm in for it, as long as it remains logical, plausible and without all the shit the lore suddenly received.

[Creep]

Sleeper Mysteries, Arek'Jalaan things (yeah, I never took part in it while it happened, but I LOVED what it produced), Sansha continued, SoE vs SoCT (because this never gets old, and intrigue is awesome), some Angel/Serp/'Rista/Raider storylines.

Megacorp political machinations (NOH/Ishuk/Suvee vs the others?).
Tribal machinations (let's get a better picture of the Vherok/Krusual politicitians, and see what the Starkies/integrated Thukkers bring to the mix).
AMMATAR/Khanid/Empire intrigues (seriously, intrigues are awesome, and we need moar Ammatar shit).
Gallente intrigues! Moar Intaki vs Fed intrigues, flesh out the Jin-Mei/Mannar/etc.

Inter-faction intrigues — money issues are always boss, and if the Fed and Republic part ways, will the RSS team up with the Cartel and Serps to spy on the Fed?(spoiler:they probably already do!)


All the Games of Thrones+SpaiMovieTitleHere shit that actually happens IRL without asspulls and space soap opera dramatic twists and mystical terran artifacts.


Seriously, I want more hilarious Quafe+ sidestories, more ohshit, the Rista's kidnapped another Ambassador and are holding him/her for ransom, more Angels+Thukker Outriders Vs Thukker Chiefs+Republic Fleet(going after Martokar Alash and Krullefor for starters), more creepy sentience from the Rogue Drones(please to hotdrop Capsuleers with DroneDreads+DroneBS/BC Support Fleets! It will be hilarious), more Sleepers appearing in KSpace.

We have an absolute wealth of available potential-for-exciting-shit just sitting around. There are unused staging areas in Nullsec which are staffed by the Empires but aren't used even for missions (as far as I know). There are all kinds of hints and tidbits in region descriptions about cool stories we don't know anything about, but could be awesome. And if you're really struggling for some kind of Intrigues and Mystery: Intaki Syndicate.

[Makkal]

My 'empire of choice' is the Kingdoms, so a bit more visibility would be nice.

I'd like a bunch of nice reasons for members of all factions to hate, like, or tolerate each of the other factions. The current antagonism between the Republic and the Federation is a nice start. A bit of bridge building between the Empire and Federation would be good.

Intra-factional rivalries would be nice. Sebbie vs Brutor. Sarum vs Tash-Murkon. Isukone vs Suuv.

[BloodBird]

Disbanding the alliances between nations and introduce a sort of 'stable' cold-war again. Render FW into 4 separate wars as all the empires seek to clean up their internal BS (and all the drama and politicking this leads to) while dealing with foreign issues that has plagued them for a long time. The militias as a result splits and the 4 separate wars are Empire vs Blooders, Fed vs Serpentis etc. with the occasional war-period between enemies as different sides take turns trying to exploit chances offered by different enemies when they present themselves, for instance the Angel vs Republic fighting might lead the Empire to try a major raid of a constellation for slaves etc. forcing the Empire FW players to invade to try for the objective (lured by dangling booty if successful) and their opponents to defend. If the Empire manage this the Rep wants pay-back and counter attacks an Imperial constellation for instance, leading to dynamic results of these 'events' (more like campaigns tbh.)

Pirate militias meanwhile has set goals and different exploitable events of their own that crop up from time to time. May even tie this into a bit of a null-trip by having pirates that don't like each other hit each other's back-yards possibly. (would likely need some serious work and organization due to null-bear infestations etc.)

In short, disband the alliances and introduce a believable new twist to FW that leads to more space being fought over and more players involved. STOP the distinction of FW as a 'stepping stone to null' and integrate it into an equal part of the low-sec/null balance. Many FW alliances are superior to many of their null-counterparts anyway. Who knows, something like this might sprite up both low-sec, FW and null-space all in one go.

[Ulphus]

If we could get the faction wars to grind to a halt, then I can bet that there'll be a lot more internecine struggle internal to factions.

Right now there are probably a lot of Sebiestor who are thinking Shakor is being a dick, and the Brutor need to be taken down a level, but that's not like to happen while they're all still worried about the Amarr.

Likewise the corporate struggles in the state (although they seem less constrained by the fact that they're also in a shooting war with the Fed)

The Federation have their own arguments to resolve (Hello Mr Blaque) although I'm not sure that they'll rise to the level of internal shooting, they could.

As for the Amarr, I think that there is lots of room for power struggles between the various factions, although I'm not sure if they will suppress them as long as the Empress seems to have her act together.

That's what I'd like to see, but honestly, I'm not sure how much fun it would be from a game perspective. Halt FW, and a lot of players are going to be upset for losing their gravy train, and their frequent PvP. I'm not sure what CCP could replace it with that would keep those players interested. OTOH, a war that stretches off interminably, and which appears to have no particular victory possibility for any of the sides, seems to burn out pilots fairly frequently so at might even be better for the game. Who knows.

[Silver Night]

That's assuming that FW has to be halted. FW is a mechanism to avoid 'real' war between the factions, and if they look at it, and see that's working as intended, we might see them start up with more rivalry close to home.

On the Empire specifically, I think even with Jamyl having her act together, there is potential for conflict. She is the Empress, her word is law, etc. At the same time, she might not come down on conflicts between houses as long as they are conducted properly - not making the Empire look weak, etc - and with an eye toward keeping the major factions focused on each-other so that she doesn't need to worry about one of them pulling a Khanid, or trying to undermine her.

[Pieter Tuulinen]

Our alliance does FW because it is, for the most part, a stable source of targets that generate enough iskies to pay for the cost of the ships we use to hunt them.

All you need to do is find new ways to bring in lots of frigates/destroyers/cruisers into the same place so that they can be duelled/prosecuted/ganked whilst, at the same time, provide enough revenue to match the losses. That's what makes FW popular and successful.

Can it REALLY be hard to do that?

[Gaven Lok ri]

Grinding FW to a halt would be bad, IMO.

Escalating it would be fine, tweaking it regarding things like alliances also fine. But the war has no reason to end on the Matari/Amarr side at least.

[Lithium Flower]

Well, let's put it simple.
If everything "TonyG-ish" is removed and EVE is returned to pre-TonyG status quo, then... then we all die out of boredom and CCP can put big red cross on the whole project.

Any changes, be them bad or good, mean development and growing of projects. If they are pulled back, especially after quite long time, this means nothing good for the project. As for "After TonyG", I would prefer to see further advance, whatever it will be, whatever it will bring, good or bad, will players like it or not.

Any advance will be just better than to stop here and enjoy what we have now or than returning to "past".

Be it another big war, new alliances between empires, new enemies from dunnowhere, incursion of empires into nullsecs, new leaders, new politics, new Jamyls and Heiderans, revolutions, titans, new empires (like... gurista sovereignty?) , epic battles, lost planets, catastrophic events, new heroes and new traitors...
goddam CCP, if you can do SOMETHING,
JUST BRING IT!

[Anslol]

I'd like to see a press release after a nice long story arc that looks something like this...

BLAQUE ARRESTED, PROSECUTION INVESTIGATION UNDERWAY IN FOILED ANTI-REFUGEE SCHEME

Caille - 30 May, YC 116 - Mentas Blaque, former Commanding Officer of the Black Eagles, has been confirmed by the AP as formally charged with conspiracy and treason after an accounting leak by an unknown individual came to light mid-May YC 115, implicating him and others under his command in an anti-refugee scheme. Blaque is currently under house arrest while his implicated subordinates undergo interrogation by a joint team of Federation Navy and CONCORD investigators.

The accounting leak had originally been leaked within the GalNet by an untraceable source last May, sparking wild debate for the seven minutes that the document was available before SDII Data Manipulation Services removed it from the net and distributed C&D Notices. One month later, the document reappeared on the GalNet, as well as the personal digital and physical inbox of multiple Scope reporters in a tiny seed storage device. No one has stepped forward to claim responsibility for the leak and distribution as of yet.

The accounting logs confirm an attempt to hide fund transfers from the FIO to a third-party banking service. Upon further investigation, said banking services only existed on paper and lacked a physical or GalNet office. However, pre-programmed nodes containing distribution algorithms were discovered hidden throughout areas of the net known for financial information flow. The nodes were small and broadly distributed enough to remain hidden as they transmitted funds to organizations tasked with inciting anti-Minmatar refugee sentiment across the Federation, with each group acting as seemingly independent organizations with no ties to each other save for the anti-refugee actions they took. AP sources are working to confirm that these groups consisted partially of SDII operatives.

Further research from the Prosecution confirms that encrypted message caches contain detailed instructions from individuals on plans and security schedules around the city of Caille to allow the aforementioned groups to act. This data was provided by falsified individuals through data manipulation directly by Blaque. While no formal statement has been made, it appears that Blaque attempted to spur the Minmatar refugees to start a war of defense against ethnic Gallente in hopes of sparking a civil war to justify refugee removal with the assistance of a yet to be identified partner organization or government.

The distribution of this information one year ago preceded multiple acts of non-violent domestic terrorism including a forced change of all terminal backgrounds in an FIO office in Dodixie to a cartoon like black eagle, shaped vaguely like the Federal Eagle, seemingly rubbing its wings together while cackling. This logo continued to be the calling card of the unknown hacker responsible for the leak as it appeared on the side of an FIO building at night, where the building light system was hacked to form an outline of the same cartoon eagle.

The Scope will keep you updated via the Live Feed as information is obtained.

[Vincent Pryce]

Why ya'll brothers always gotta be hatin' on the Blaque-man?

[Anslol]

Why ya'll brothers always gotta be hatin' on the Blaque-man?

Because he sucks.

[Aria Jenneth]

Pick up a few back issues of the New York Times over the last two decades. Read the International section. Consider how thematic elements could crop up in New Eden. According to Wikipedia, there are ten "major" wars or war-like conflicts ongoing on earth at this very moment (defined as 1000+ deaths per year). There are a couple dozen minor ones.

There's plenty we can do without reaching for Tony G melodrama. Here's one off the top of my head:

With the Empire on its heels in the Emyprean War, traditionalist Matari militants fearing Federal influence in their lives begin to attack Gallentean aid workers in poor areas of the Republic or even launch terrorist strikes in the Federation itself. Naturally, the Federation is outraged, both officially and publicly, and demands that the Republic either take action against the militants or stand aside and let the Federation military handle them.

Several factors prevent such an easy approach, however. Firstly, the Republic government has been building these people up as heroes to the public for, literally, decades as a means of producing a weapon against the Amarr. Many have deep political connections, and their resources are extensive. What's more, their elevated status makes them powerful-- they hold positions of moral authority in Matari society and tend to be listened to. Not all Matari agree that violent measures against the Gallente are appropriate, but only a minority feels that long-term Federal involvement in the Republic is sustainable or desirable. Public consensus favors increasing isolationism, and an overt move against the militants could potentially result in civil war.

The Republic government hems and haws and eventually lets the Federation in to "deal with" the militants and launches some half-hearted raids of its own while continuing to provide financial aid and intelligence to the Matari militants through its own intelligence services. Meanwhile, Federal efforts to uproot the militants are hampered by sometimes contradictory intel, an increasingly hostile local population, imperfect understanding of tribal culture, and a new and maddening discovery that the Matari militants are receiving further funding and support from intelligence services based in the Caldari State.

The frustrating quagmire and a sense of profound betrayal leads to a hardening of nationalist sentiment in the Federation that is reflected in its leadership, with increasingly hard-line diplomacy and tactics adding to the already combustible situation. Meanwhile, the Empire's discovery (from intel provided by the Federation) that Caldari elements have been funding Matari "freedom fighters" results in yet another zone of escalating diplomatic tensions.

With positions hardening on all sides and diplomacy disintegrating into grandstanding and sloganeering, the voices crying out for patience and compromise are all but drowned out. Battle lines are drawn, fleets are mobilizing, and although 11th-hour diplomatic efforts continue the only question seems to be who is going to fire the first shot.

Muck Raker publishes a statement of general approval from The Equilibrium of Mankind.

Essence of today's headlines, sprinkled with vinegar.

[Aldrith Shutaq]

Why ya'll brothers always gotta be hatin' on the Blaque-man?

Because he sucks.

Anslo, puns are lost on thee.