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Teinyhr

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[Character & Character Development] Teinyhr
« on: 27 Nov 2015, 10:59 »

Name    Athryn Noduri
Gender    Female
Race    Minmatar
Bloodline    Vherokior
Date of Birth    21/10/YC82 (1980)
Height    187cm (6’2”)
Weight    76kg (167.5 lbs)
Licensed    21/04/YC108 (2006)
Corporation    Ourumur
Occupation    Capsuleer / Several
Specialization    Space Combat, Electronic Warfare

Appearance
Due to regulations concerning capsuleer image identification, Athryn's appearance on official portraits is different enough that you first might not recognize her if you actually met her. Most notably certain tattoos are always removed or altered in post-processing for privacy and cultural reasons. Her hair is nearly always longer than pictured, typically reaching all the way down to her thighs. Her natural haircolor is dark brown, which in certain starlight and artificial light conditions appears nearly black.


Voluval (OOC Info - Not common knowledge outside family and other very close people)
Athryn has a Voluval mark identical to her father's - the Yetamo's Tongue. It is a common mark for Vherokior, situated a little above her navel, which is a typical place for the mark to appear.

History

Early Life


Born Athryn Myrianna Noduri, daughter to a Vherokior mystic Elenia Noduri and her lifemate Mikkon Noduri, Athryn had a humble and a genuinely loving beginning to her life on Gelfiven VI. When Athryn was around 10 years old and her family had settled on the outskirts of the capitol city, a retired Republic soldier saw her fighting with a group of boys from nearby houses – and besting them all. Even though it was more just a friendly tumble than an actual fight, half jokingly the former soldier told her that with her skills she should consider joining the Republic Military. While at the time she shrugged it off, the memory of this moment would play a large part on her later life.

Since her 15th birthday, once every year, her mother performed a spiritual ritual with Athryn; this brought the two very close. During this time she also learned many things about her mother's ancestry, that of the Vherokior mystics, but eventually did not choose to pursue this herself, for it was not her way - she exhibited only a few traits considered connected with the ways of the mystics.

As Athryn turned twenty, she started seeking new directions in her life. Encouraged by the odd encounter years ago, and with the support of her parents, she applied to the Republic Military School and was accepted after an audition with the application review board.


Recent Past

In YC102 Athryn Noduri started her career as a Republic Fleet Ensign. Going through basic training for a year and after choosing piloting as her orientation, she, as well as her classmates were allowed to start flying training vessels. During one particular debriefing the flight instructor noted to the class, much to Athryn's embarrassment, that ”she flew this ship like someone with ten years of experience.” It wasn't by no means unfounded praise – she could match her flight instructors maneuvers with remarkable ease, and truly seemed to know her ship from the inside out. Although she certainly did have some natural affinity for piloting, a large part in her great skills were simply the result of studying hard to understand spaceship systems, physics and also declining countless invitations to parties. Her supposedly stuck up attitude coupled with the praise showered on her by instructors soon earned her the part teasing, but mostly playful nickname ”Ten Years.” Over the years it became ”teinyhr”, a word from a Matari dialect spoken on several planets in Molden Heath, meaning ”persistence.”

Her training continued admirably, and in YC105 as she was about to graduate with honors and was already slated to become a pilot to a Tempest -class battleship owned by the Republic Fleet, she was found to be genetically compatible with the hydrostatic capsule. The Republic, at that time desperately needing capsuleers to bolster its ranks offered to train her to become one. Hesitant at first, having heard all the old and even some new horror stories of failing the capsuleer training program, she relented after being offered a contract in which it was assured that her closest relatives would be well compensated should she fail the program and that she "would be as humanely euthanized as possible.”

The training program she underwent was expectedly tough as nails, and at times took nearly sadistic properties on testing the mental faculties of the trainees. True to her nickname, Athryn persisted where some did not - the most mentally weak were weeded out of the program in a couple of months. In early YC108, after mere three years of training and preparation the fledgling pilots were connected to their capsules the first time, and the number of failures soared. It should be noted that three years is a very short time for capsuleer training - it was accelerated at the cost of trainee safety. Out of 104 trainees still in the program only 37 avoided mindlock – Athryn among the few. Out of the 37, eight found the experience so overwhelming and discomfortable they would not try it again, and at the cusp of immortality, rejected it. Athryn would embrace it, her destiny now entirely in her own hands.
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This is my current profile, it is based largely on the older lore I was introduced with - such as capsuleer training was incredibly dangerous, not to mention expensive and not to be wasted on just anyone without extensive checks on if they could handle the pressure without going insane. Anything that logically could be considered public knowledge is... Public knowledge. DOB, birthplace, service history up until capsuleer training etc, and what is just flavor is hopefully self evident.

Right after the explanation to her strange callsign, her Voluval mark is one of the things I'm most proud of to have worked out, my headcanon says that the "Yetamo's Tongue" - that is, a two-pronged shape reminiscient of the tongue of the Yetamo lizard - refers rather straighforwardly to her two halves / inner conflict. As she is now, I imagine Teinyhr being a highly logical individual, a "progressive tribalist" even. However she is also incredibly emotional, conservative and judgemental on some things, in stark contrast to usually trying to find something positive about anyone and everything. For instance, when the Drifters first appeared she didn't consider them a direct threat, and often held other capsuleers as the primary culprits of any engagements between them. Assasination of Jamyl obviously changed her views somewhat, but she still maintains that there must be some reason the Drifters restrain themselves acting against other empires.

Now, my problem is this, and where I'd like your feedback, is that other than what mentioned above her character is in my opinion, almost paper thin. One problem is that I RP in "easymode" - that is, Teinyhr acts and is a lot like my ordinary self, biggest differences being around 25,000 years in the future in another galaxy and being female. The other big problem is that I probably have an inferiority complex, seeing how well everyone else seems to play their characters and how vast backgrounds they have built makes me feel inadequate amongst most other roleplayers and leads me to often just shy away from RP aside from a few lines here and there. I'm not sure how much this actually has to do with my character anymore and perhaps should be its own topic (possibly already discussed somewhere?), so I'll just halt here.

In closing, if you have any ideas how to deepen Teinyhr's character, anything at all is welcome. I'm not saying you should write the character for me, but basicly, tell me if you want to know something more about the character and her now established story, and maybe that will get my imagination kickstarted a bit better. And obviously if there are some glaring lore mistakes in there, don't be shy mentioning those too.
« Last Edit: 11 Jan 2016, 12:07 by Teinyhr »
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Re: [Character & Character Development] Teinyhr
« Reply #1 on: 27 Nov 2015, 14:25 »

* Mitara Newelle peers curiously at this new(old) Matari.
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Re: [Character & Character Development] Teinyhr
« Reply #2 on: 27 Nov 2015, 16:03 »

I'm a sucker for Vherokior family and clan dynamics, so if you ever want to further flesh it out, you'll have an enthusiastic reader.

Also, I wouldn't worry about having a fully-fleshed history for the past x amount of years, those things can come up as you develop the character in seemingly mundane interactions. You can always fill that stuff in later.
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« Reply #3 on: 28 Nov 2015, 06:09 »

I think your character looks extremely interesting, and I particularly like the explanation of her callsign name.

It seems to me that there are lots of good ideas contained in that description for you to think about developing. There's no need to feel shy when RPing - most people's characters are fully rounded at all - the point of fictional characters (and in RL) is to grow and develop.

I'd suggest you choose one aspect you'd like to explore at first - either from the background you've written, or some character trait that you might always have wanted to explore in your real life, but is simply not you at all. (For example, I'm quite a liberal in Rl politically, but Skyweir has been conceived to be fairly right-wing Progressive party. It makes me think hard about other people's positions, and how that might translate into the fictional world of the Federation. With other players, it's given me some avenues to explore, as well as occasionally horrifying me with his prejudice!)

You note that you've been in the game for several years - there must have been memorable moment for you, that would make great macguffins for an event that shaped your character. Start at that point, and follow the trail of her thoughts and personal development.

I'm looking forward to seeing more.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: 28 Nov 2015, 16:41 »

Alright, thanks for your feedback so far! For the clan/family dynamics, I'm not that well versed in Vherokior lore at the moment that I could come up with anything that wouldn't be totally ridiculous. But I would like to expand on that at some point, for sure.

You raise a good point on choosing one aspect to focus on, Skyweir, and one I'll take it to heart. And yes there are in fact a few memorable events in the game such as the Colelie Incident that I've not perhaps incorporated in to Teinyhr's character as much as I perhaps should have - and a few others. And actually one thing I've failed to incorporate at all is that Tein's spent most of her adult life in the military / navy, which possibly should show through at least a bit.

Again, thanks to you both!
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« Reply #5 on: 28 Nov 2015, 18:02 »

Well, not to try and derail the thread, as a sidenote, the right wing progressive party in the Federation is actually the liberal wing of the roster...

With that said, good luck to your character development!
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« Reply #6 on: 29 Nov 2015, 03:47 »

Well, not to try and derail the thread, as a sidenote, the right wing progressive party in the Federation is actually the liberal wing of the roster...

With that said, good luck to your character development!

I was using the term 'liberal' for my views in the now widely accepted Americanised meaning, rather than the Lockian/Smith derivation. It's actually the latter that is attractive to Skyweir's character.

But as noted, this is Teinhyr's thread.
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« Reply #7 on: 29 Nov 2015, 10:16 »

I don't mind a little off-topic posting here, but of course if it interests you deeper, perhaps there is another thead on the same topic somewhere?
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« Reply #8 on: 21 Apr 2017, 16:47 »

I've been mulling things over said in this thread and several others discussing minmatar spirituality and its contrast to the highly scientific society around them. And one thing among many that popped in to my head is that Teinyhr needs to be more flamboyant, maybe? I've been thinking and working on extending the story of her clan, and part of it is that many in her clan believe her to be a person from a prophecy - "The Sky Daughter" (working title) - and she has grown up as bit spoiled as a result, having things given to her more easily than she really should have worked for them. This carries on from the original idea that Teinyhrs primary character flaw is arrogance, and firm belief that she is always right.

That's without going in too much detail of what has been going on in my head, and I'm just bouncing it off of you guys, what do you think? Or are you just content of seeing her adding her bit of snark every now and then, without becoming a bit of a "large ham" (larger than life character). I know EVE has plenty of those characters already, which is why I'm kind of on edge with the idea, should I follow it or not.
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« Reply #9 on: 21 Apr 2017, 19:01 »

I've been mulling things over said in this thread and several others discussing minmatar spirituality and its contrast to the highly scientific society around them. And one thing among many that popped in to my head is that Teinyhr needs to be more flamboyant, maybe? I've been thinking and working on extending the story of her clan, and part of it is that many in her clan believe her to be a person from a prophecy - "The Sky Daughter" (working title) - and she has grown up as bit spoiled as a result, having things given to her more easily than she really should have worked for them. This carries on from the original idea that Teinyhrs primary character flaw is arrogance, and firm belief that she is always right.

That's without going in too much detail of what has been going on in my head, and I'm just bouncing it off of you guys, what do you think?

Well, I should first say that I really enjoy her posts on IGS (including the snark), even if my character can't necessarily agree with some of it IC.

(。•̀ᴗ-)✧ It certainly doesn't seem abnormal in terms of arrogance, which is to say, I think the way she posts is in line with what I'd expect of someone who is assured that they are right. That much seems to be in line with what you have hinted at with an upbringing high praise/high expectation. Shamanism could certainly play a role in elevating that as well through augury/prophecy, as this sort of thing is pretty well-established.

It sounds like something you could portray believably and with depth if you wanted, while maintaining a flamboyance of sorts. Just as an example, Odelya is a character who I feel walks that line pretty well.
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« Reply #10 on: 22 Apr 2017, 13:14 »

I've been mulling things over said in this thread and several others discussing minmatar spirituality and its contrast to the highly scientific society around them. And one thing among many that popped in to my head is that Teinyhr needs to be more flamboyant, maybe? I've been thinking and working on extending the story of her clan, and part of it is that many in her clan believe her to be a person from a prophecy - "The Sky Daughter" (working title) - and she has grown up as bit spoiled as a result, having things given to her more easily than she really should have worked for them. This carries on from the original idea that Teinyhrs primary character flaw is arrogance, and firm belief that she is always right.

That's without going in too much detail of what has been going on in my head, and I'm just bouncing it off of you guys, what do you think?

Well, I should first say that I really enjoy her posts on IGS (including the snark), even if my character can't necessarily agree with some of it IC.

(。•̀ᴗ-)✧ It certainly doesn't seem abnormal in terms of arrogance, which is to say, I think the way she posts is in line with what I'd expect of someone who is assured that they are right. That much seems to be in line with what you have hinted at with an upbringing high praise/high expectation. Shamanism could certainly play a role in elevating that as well through augury/prophecy, as this sort of thing is pretty well-established.

It sounds like something you could portray believably and with depth if you wanted, while maintaining a flamboyance of sorts. Just as an example, Odelya is a character who I feel walks that line pretty well.

Woop, first off thanks for the quick reply, and providing someone to look/measure up to :D (and also thanks for words of encouragement.)
I'll start working on some personal lore expansion and start updating my profile where it needs to as work progresses. Of course, the more opinions I get, the better!
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« Reply #11 on: 18 Jan 2018, 15:25 »

My take on Teinyhr. I think the Daria analogy is actually somewhat apt. Then again I only know what is on IGS.

Judging from how I typically play her on IGS, that is a highly spot on trope. The only bit a bit wrong is that she does not disdain everyone as the trope says, but other than that - very fitting, even down to the page quote.


As a side note, I really do need to take a look at my character profile and start updating it with fluff I've been working on.
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