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Author Topic: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles  (Read 5009 times)

Nmaro Makari

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Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« on: 05 May 2014, 17:28 »

Spaceships. We like spaceships. Some of us even pretend to be quasi-immortal pilots of spaceships in an online community, or so the rumour goes.

But what of of the vehicles that we don't see in-game? How to people get from a to b on Caldari Prime? Do stations have a metro system? Is there such a thing in New Eden as a recreational vehicle?

Player created, general brainstorming or obscure CCP fiction, tell us about/show us the vehicles of New Eden.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #1 on: 05 May 2014, 18:05 »

EVE Source covers Caldari Prime metropolitan transport systems. I can't even remember the exact name of it, but it goes into great detail on that.

Repulsorlifts don't seem to exist in EVE, as far as I know. Directed thrust seems to be the order of the day, if trailers and DUST vehicles are to be assumed. However, there is concept art of 'cloating' hoverbikes, without any visible thruster flares... so maybe I'm wrong.

Recreational vehicles do exist according to EVE market tabs, and according to lore. I'm too lazy to cite any sources, so meh.

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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #2 on: 05 May 2014, 18:49 »

Hyperloops, hyperloops everywhere  :)
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #3 on: 06 May 2014, 03:28 »

Seylin used a magrail train system.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #4 on: 06 May 2014, 08:04 »


*digs stuff up*

l'auto-hover (or l'hover) - an ornithopter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithopter).  There are many styles used in the Federation, but most are either of Gallentean or Mannar make.

I thought I ruminated on rattletrap rocket bikes somewhere, but I can't find it.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #5 on: 28 Aug 2014, 02:19 »

The only ground vehicles I have seen are the Gallentean ground vehicles that are a commodity item. This leads me to believe that Caldari State and the Amarr Empire use, something else.

Hyperloops, trains, and moving sidewalks make a lot of sense on densely populated highly urbanized Caldari worlds.

Why no ground vehicles? Well, Caldari society is a militaristic fascist state. You don't go from point A to point B without proper authorization and clearance. If everyone travels by tube, there is an opportunity to check everyone's ID, inspect their itinerary, and scan them for contraband before and after they board.

Ground vehicles represent a certain degree of freedom, which is why the Gallente are so fond of using them and the Caldari heavily restrict their use. 

I had actually imagined that the Amarrians would eschew motorized ground transportation completely, with the exception of trains and pneumatic tubes for slaves and cargo.

They would instead, still use animal mounts such as horses or giant two legged lizards for transportation. The reason for this? The Amarrians would argue that these animals are mentioned in scripture, and ground vehicles are not. In the stratified feudal heirarchy of Amarrian society, only the upper echelons of society (i.e. the 'Equestrians') would have the privilege of being able to ride mounts. Human slaves as rickshaw runners might also provide a taxi service in some cities.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #6 on: 28 Aug 2014, 09:12 »

Stoneage Amarr with horseshit everywhere on the paved ways ? Even India these days is moving away from their sacred cows in cities...
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #7 on: 28 Aug 2014, 09:33 »

Besides what others have already mentioned, the novels which shall not be named also refer to Caldari hovercars.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #8 on: 28 Aug 2014, 12:23 »

I had actually imagined that the Amarrians would eschew motorized ground transportation completely, with the exception of trains and pneumatic tubes for slaves and cargo.

They would instead, still use animal mounts such as horses or giant two legged lizards for transportation. The reason for this? The Amarrians would argue that these animals are mentioned in scripture, and ground vehicles are not. In the stratified feudal heirarchy of Amarrian society, only the upper echelons of society (i.e. the 'Equestrians') would have the privilege of being able to ride mounts. Human slaves as rickshaw runners might also provide a taxi service in some cities.

Amarr are a highly advanced society that embraces science and progress. Religion does not equal backwater and I really dislike seeing people constantly assume that. The Scriptures are an ever changing document that include, among other things, scientific advancements. The first car is probably written down in Scriptures, as would be the first plane, anti-grav tech, jump drives, and so on. Though they include ancient Books and passages where appropriate for historical and spiritual purposes, the Scriptures as a whole are kept modern and relate to today's Amarr.

This is Amarr:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

In the "Chained to the Sky" chronicle, which describes a slave district, we have hoverstrollers and autocaravans, which two slaves duck under while they discuss their jobs of translating ancient texts and scientific research and development. In "The Part Where I Play the Devil", a holder is described as using a flight-capable planetary vehicle which was said to crash into the ocean while en route to meet with Aritcio. On EVElopedia, getting a driving license and personal ground vehicle is considered a rite of passage in "most cultures in New Eden", Amarr nobility are described as regularly using hovercars (where working class people normally use wheeled vehicles), and Noble Appliances, an interstellar Amarr corporation, is known to produce expensive luxury planetary vehicles. In images like the above and in trailers Prophecy and Fanfest 2012 you see plenty of flying vehicles in regular use in Amarr cities, at about 1:18 and 1:08 respectively. And in EVE itself, you see hover vehicles driving to and fro in every single Amarr station.

Now, some areas of the Empire might be less modernized than others and indeed, "A Visit Worthwhile" describes one such world where it sounds like a third world nation RL. But this is not the case for most of the Empire and is definitely not something that would be mandated by the religion.


Regarding ground transportation tech in general:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bioturb (essentially hyperloops)
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hovercars
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planetary_vehicles_%28lore%29
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #9 on: 28 Aug 2014, 13:59 »

Amarr is likely to have far more variation amongst and between planets, than any of the other major powers.

There is the cultural context of the possibility of, and means of suppressing, revolts against the ruler.

Public transport that runs on rails - trains, trams and the like, is unusable in the event of a slave revolt, because the tracks only go in certain directions. So Amarr planets would likely have a lot of rail systems, of a variety of designs, according to the whims of the local Holder - some may have steam trains that run on steel rails, others may have anti-gravitic monorails.

Private vehicles might have a tendency towards one or two-person vehicles, to minimise their utility to any revolters.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #10 on: 28 Aug 2014, 14:08 »

+1 Samira

For Amarr God's sake (and not Space Christianity's in a book people imagine hasnt changed in 20,000 years), Amrrians have hovercars.

The Scripture is a LIVING document.  This means that every year it grows.

Not a dead document, clung to and un-added to for thousands and thousands of years.

The reason Amarrians are such the friggin bad guys  in the first place is they re-discovered space travel first, and used it to try and make everyone Amarrian...

... they didn't do that on a rickshaw. ;)
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #11 on: 28 Aug 2014, 15:53 »

Gathering from Planetary vehicles Eve Wiki Wheeled ground vehicles are still the most common, simply because they're cheap & easy to maintain. Hoovervehicles however are also widely avaible, mainly in the core regions.
On tech used for hoover, two systems are in use, Magnetic levitation (non rail variety) and anti-grav. Maglev is most used, as the tech is much more known & researched, indicating that anti-grav is a fairly recent tech.

Also, concerning ground vehicles, one with the nomination 'Gallente Vehicle' just means Luxury vehicle, even if it's made in the State according to the Wiki. The megacorp NOH is actually one of 3 corps famous for luxury vehicles, other two being Quafe (no surprise) and Noble Appliances, an amarr corp who only produces goods for the extreme wealthy.

On Public transport, Minmatar have a thing with rails it seems. On their homeworld, in the Brutor tribe area, trains are used, albeit mainly as tribute to their heritage (Bruto had a vast railwaynetwork before the Amarr came) More modern variant they use is a monorail, but the chronicle refers to it as Bioturbs (Chronicle: Present Pieces)

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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #12 on: 28 Aug 2014, 22:49 »

I now have this image of the Amarrian reclaiming involving space dinosaurs pulling golden chariots crewed by soldiers shooting their lazors.
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Re: Planes, Trains and Repulsorlift Vehichles
« Reply #13 on: 28 Aug 2014, 22:51 »

I now have this image of the Amarrian reclaiming involving space dinosaurs pulling golden chariots crewed by soldiers shooting their lazors.

"Stomp me closer, I want to shoot them with my laz0r"?
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« Reply #14 on: 28 Aug 2014, 22:54 »

I now have this image of the Amarrian reclaiming involving space dinosaurs pulling golden chariots crewed by soldiers shooting their lazors.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

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