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Vic Van Meter

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The Dramiel....
« on: 10 Nov 2013, 18:31 »

... what is it good for?

Serious question, since opinion seems to be divided and I thought this would be a good place to ask.
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Repentence Tyrathlion

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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #1 on: 10 Nov 2013, 18:50 »

Absolutely nothing.

 ;)

For a serious answer that is worth the time it takes to read, ask somebody else.  I've been out of the PvP game for too long :P
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #2 on: 11 Nov 2013, 03:01 »

It's for catching things that don't want to be caught and then tearing it to bits, and for running away from things that wants to catch you.
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #3 on: 11 Nov 2013, 03:48 »

It makes an absolutely awesome loot pinata.
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Lyn Farel

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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #4 on: 11 Nov 2013, 04:28 »

It's little like the little brother of the vaga/cynabal/stabber, it's mostly a top skirmisher. Generally impossible to catch if you know what you are doing and are trying to stay away, you choose what and when you engage.
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Desiderya

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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #5 on: 11 Nov 2013, 10:44 »

My friend the doublewebs.
I think the Daredevil is the better of the two (let us not talk about the others, especially you, worm), simply because railguns are better at kiting and finding something that commits in brawl range /and does not have a plan/backup/ogb can be challenging. Generally speaking: Don't use it unless you really know what you do and especially what to expect.

Also enjoy being primary in any group situation. 8)
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #6 on: 11 Nov 2013, 15:10 »

Used to be incredibly fuckoff OP. More balanced now, so many people declare it useless. Still an exceptional kiter or fast tackler, but requires knowledge of what you're doing. Right pain in the arse. Usually dies to a hookbill unless you just punch it in the dick with higher dps.
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Desiderya

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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #7 on: 11 Nov 2013, 18:32 »

Sometimes the hookbill punches things in the dick with superior DPS as well.  8)
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #8 on: 12 Nov 2013, 02:49 »

Eeehh. Possibly. Not that often though. Hookbill's strength is applying the dps rather than having a lot of it.
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Desiderya

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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #9 on: 12 Nov 2013, 08:10 »

Around 200 is quite possible - and applied dps is always better than paper dps, I don't see how that would count against burning the foe down.
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #10 on: 12 Nov 2013, 08:37 »



Dramiel used to be the guy with the ball.

These days, it would not survive the clusterfuck about 4 seconds into that gif.
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #11 on: 12 Nov 2013, 17:59 »

Every Dramiel ever deserves to die for the grief they caused me during their OP days.

I will never forget the dozen or so Slicers I've lost to the fuckers.
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #12 on: 12 Nov 2013, 18:40 »

To be clearer on what people's issue with them was, they used to have no real downsides or weaknesses in combat. They had gun DPS on scale with gun assault frigs while still being able to launch four drones; they could also do this while still sporting a respectable tank. They did this while burning at some freakish speeds (the "baseline", IIRC was about 2 km/s with MWD) for extended periods of time, yet still being able to turn on a dime as needed.

The end result was tankier than an interceptor while still being able to practically spin in place, and sport more DPS than an assault frigate while flying faster. They were especially hellish for larger ships, where they could quickly get under guns while shrugging off light drone flights and then proceed to eat away at your HP with surprising speed. There was some subtitled picture that compared being attacked by dramiels to being bitten to death by supersonic mosquitoes.
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #13 on: 12 Nov 2013, 19:09 »

There was some subtitled picture that compared being attacked by dramiels to being bitten to death by supersonic mosquitoes.

That was mine, and it was done after an all-Dramiel roam that Veto ran for shits and giggles - we posed for a photo op after we got home.

Behold:
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Re: The Dramiel....
« Reply #14 on: 12 Nov 2013, 21:16 »

It makes an absolutely awesome loot pinata.

This.
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