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[Saede Riordan]

Okay, so we've had a fairly respectful discussion of "space-lesbians" and I actually think that give that we may be able to have a conversation about something that, while rather closely linked, is probably deserving of its own thread.

That topic is ERP, or cybering, or erotic roleplay, or whatever you might call it. The act of roleplaying your character having sex. ERP is something a lot of people have seemingly strong opinions of. Its often mocked by those who disagree with it, and treated silly, but is there anything wrong with it in and of itself? If both players want to do it, is it okay? Please keep the conversation respectful, I understand this is something people have strong opinions about. Lets avoid doingitrong.

[Lasairiona]

I have had Lasa engage in ERP. Personally, I don't see an issue with it. It's not something that she does all the time (contrary to popular belief, it seems  )

[Safai]

Not something I have any interest in doing and I'm just as uninterested in hearing about it from other players. I suppose what happens between, uh, two consenting players is their business, but as it was evidenced in the 'space lesbian' thread I think a problem (or eyeball rolling at the least) arises when a character's sole defining feature is their sexual nature.

Succinctly speaking I'd rather focus on my actual sex life.

[Lasairiona]

Haha, Safai....my regular sex life is awesome, lmao!

[Safai]

Oh, I wasn't asserting anyone who engages in erotic roleplay thusly has a bad sex life. I was speaking personally.

To elaborate a little: if one has a hole in their life, I feel that EVE is a poor place to fill it (heh, insert penetration pun) because it is merely gratification through simulacrum. This applies not only to the topic at hand but how we treat the game and our lives in general.

[Sepherim]

Never tried it, but don't see anything wrong with it. The key I'd say can be taken from films: sometimes movies just feature a sex scene because "it has to have sex to catter to the audience"; this sex scenes usually can be taken away and nothing would change in the film. Other films have sexual scenes that are actually important to the plot, or to the character development, or that have to do with showing some facets of the character that can't be seen otherwise, etc.; those scenes can't be taken out of a film without changing it deeply.

So, while some people may engage in casual ERP that adds nothing (got nothing against it, like a good sex scene it's always a nice sight! ), I believe ERP gains much more relevance and importance in the second case sex scenes.

[ArtOfLight]

As long as it stays where it belongs - private, then I have zero problem with. I take issue with people broadsiding me with their sex life in real life and I take issue with it in the game.

As long as it's treated reasonably, I have zero problem with it.

[Anslol]

As long as it stays where it belongs - private, then I have zero problem with. I take issue with people broadsiding me with their sex life in real life and I take issue with it in the game.

As long as it's treated reasonably, I have zero problem with it.

* Anslol broadsides Khross with 8 sexy railguns with T2 secks tiem charges

[Adreena Madeveda]

Sexuality being an important part of anyone's life, whatever way one deals with it and her/his personnal impulses... Well, sexuality is a valid way to define a character. Given that, why not roleplaying it ?

The same way a sex scene in a movie can be either a valid part of the plot, revealing who the characters are, or just cheap, wink-wink nudge-nudge soft porn, ERP can probably be seen as a tool to shape characters and their relationship.

And seriously, even if it's just a tool for the players to masturbate vigorously behind their screen, I don't give a fuck. Their keyboards, not mine.

As far as I'm concerned ERP becomes a problem
1) when it's done publicly
2) when it's not consensual
So, basically, when you don't care about other's sensibilities.

And I don't ERP.

[Natalcya Katla]

Sexuality being an important part of anyone's life, whatever way one deals with it and her/his personnal impulses... Well, sexuality is a valid way to define a character. Given that, why not roleplaying it ?

The same way a sex scene in a movie can be either a valid part of the plot, revealing who the characters are, or just cheap, wink-wink nudge-nudge soft porn, ERP can probably be seen as a tool to shape characters and their relationship.

And seriously, even if it's just a tool for the players to masturbate vigorously behind their screen, I don't give a fuck. Their keyboards, not mine.

As far as I'm concerned ERP becomes a problem
1) when it's done publicly
2) when it's not consensual
So, basically, when you don't care about other's sensibilities.

This.

[Silas Vitalia]

It's a big cluster, and there's plenty of private channels to cater to everyone's needs or desires.

I'll agree with an earlier point that this becomes annoying when we see characters where this is their chief focus in life or their only reason for being in an RP channel.   

Like many tropes, the 'new on the scene hyper-sexual capsuleer looking for a good time and will hump anything that moves' character can be annoying.

[Ember Vykos]

Sexuality being an important part of anyone's life, whatever way one deals with it and her/his personnal impulses... Well, sexuality is a valid way to define a character. Given that, why not roleplaying it ?

The same way a sex scene in a movie can be either a valid part of the plot, revealing who the characters are, or just cheap, wink-wink nudge-nudge soft porn, ERP can probably be seen as a tool to shape characters and their relationship.

And seriously, even if it's just a tool for the players to masturbate vigorously behind their screen, I don't give a fuck. Their keyboards, not mine.

As far as I'm concerned ERP becomes a problem
1) when it's done publicly
2) when it's not consensual
So, basically, when you don't care about other's sensibilities.

And I don't ERP.

Yeah, that pretty much. Except that I have ERPd. Though I would say that while sexuality is a way to define a character it does become a problem when the player uses that character to just have ERP and nothing else. Maybe not for us but possibly for them since they could be using it to replace RL relationships which I think we could all agree is not the most healthy of things.

Edit:

Oh, I wasn't asserting anyone who engages in erotic roleplay thusly has a bad sex life. I was speaking personally.

To elaborate a little: if one has a hole in their life, I feel that EVE is a poor place to fill it (heh, insert penetration pun) because it is merely gratification through simulacrum. This applies not only to the topic at hand but how we treat the game and our lives in general.

Somehow missed that post, but Saf said it better than I did.

[Saede Riordan]

Sexuality being an important part of anyone's life, whatever way one deals with it and her/his personnal impulses... Well, sexuality is a valid way to define a character. Given that, why not roleplaying it ?

The same way a sex scene in a movie can be either a valid part of the plot, revealing who the characters are, or just cheap, wink-wink nudge-nudge soft porn, ERP can probably be seen as a tool to shape characters and their relationship.

And seriously, even if it's just a tool for the players to masturbate vigorously behind their screen, I don't give a fuck. Their keyboards, not mine.

As far as I'm concerned ERP becomes a problem
1) when it's done publicly
2) when it's not consensual
So, basically, when you don't care about other's sensibilities.

And I don't ERP.

Yeah, that pretty much. Except that I have ERPd. Though I would say that while sexuality is a way to define a character it does become a problem when the player uses that character to just have ERP and nothing else. Maybe not for us but possibly for them since they could be using it to replace RL relationships which I think we could all agree is not the most healthy of things.

Edit:

Oh, I wasn't asserting anyone who engages in erotic roleplay thusly has a bad sex life. I was speaking personally.

To elaborate a little: if one has a hole in their life, I feel that EVE is a poor place to fill it (heh, insert penetration pun) because it is merely gratification through simulacrum. This applies not only to the topic at hand but how we treat the game and our lives in general.

Somehow missed that post, but Saf said it better than I did.

This is pretty much all my thoughts on it as well.

[Khloe]

I dunno about anyone else, but I'd find it rather awkward with my character being involved in a relationship with another character without exploring their sexuality using fade-to-black techniques. A character's sexual experiences are opportunities for character development, and missing out on that would be a waste to me. I think, like all behavior acted out in RP by players (slavers, antagonists, psychopaths), there are plenty who do it well and make it an enjoyable experience, and just as many who can make it terrible.

[Samira Kernher]

Sexuality being an important part of anyone's life, whatever way one deals with it and her/his personnal impulses... Well, sexuality is a valid way to define a character. Given that, why not roleplaying it ?

The same way a sex scene in a movie can be either a valid part of the plot, revealing who the characters are, or just cheap, wink-wink nudge-nudge soft porn, ERP can probably be seen as a tool to shape characters and their relationship.

And seriously, even if it's just a tool for the players to masturbate vigorously behind their screen, I don't give a fuck. Their keyboards, not mine.

As far as I'm concerned ERP becomes a problem
1) when it's done publicly
2) when it's not consensual
So, basically, when you don't care about other's sensibilities.

This.