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[Katrina Oniseki]

A good point to keep in mind is that while they are probably OP for player-NPC use by the hundreds, CCP has made it quite clear that these guys will initially start out as little more than tools for our bidding. I think it would be a mistake to assume that every DUST soldier would need a gameworld represented alt to be legitimate. NPC Dust soldiers exist, just as NPC capsuleers do.

But like I mentioned before, the reason we don't see NPC capsuleers show up in our RP a lot is because they are of very limited utility to us. Everything they do, we can do ourselves. So, you will likely see a lot more NPC DUSTies in EVE RP... because they are very very useful to our kind. I would not begrudge a DUST player roleplaying having an NPC Capsuleer supporting him with cash (perhaps to explain how he got all his ISK he bought with cash).

I do not think we should be restricted to requiring an alt in a game we may not have access to (PS3s are still very expensive), but rather could make use of a sliding scale. Is it okay to have a team of DUST soldiers for your private RP? Yes. Is it okay to wield a phantom DUST corp against other EVE roleplayers? Not really, no.

[Silas Vitalia]

IRED has a lot of cash at their disposal, I don't think that would be a problem.

Interesting topic though, I'm wondering what sorts of plots we will be seing

[Gesakaarin]

I think I'd prefer someone actually putting in the time, effort, and ISK to organize say, a 100 man DUST corp at the beck and call of their capsuleer overlord which would actually have a tangible, in-space impact on any RP created than someone saying, "I have a full mechanized division of DUST troopers available to me because I'm a super awesome capsuleer," that doesn't actually exist. It sort of ends up in that area of irrelevancy where the fiction doesn't match "reality" because then the question will have to be asked: Why don't you deploy that supposed DUST Division then?

To which the response just ends up as silence.

Fluff fiction and soft RP can be great, but not at the expense of just being emperor's with no clothes.

Anyway, if you really want to have that DUST Trooper bodyguard prestige item, it only takes a few minutes to roll a DUST alt.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Anyway, if you really want to have that DUST Trooper bodyguard prestige item, it only takes a few minutes to roll a DUST alt.

Assuming you own a Playstation 3.

[Morwen Lagann]

Probably repeating a few of these points from earlier:
- DUST implants and capsuleer implants are mutually exclusive. You are either a capsuleer, or you are a DUST soldier. Not both.
- DUST and EVE players will be sharing the same namespace in the Tranquility database. This means that you will not be seeing any DUST characters named "Morwen Lagann" or "Seriphyn Inhonores" or "Katrina Oniseki" or so on. Likewise, if someone in DUST takes the name "Toro Kaneda" (one of the aforementioned bodyguards belonging to Kat), you will not see that name attached to an EVE character. As a result, if you want to RP with that character, you're either going to have to do it from DUST (hooray for kb/mouse support?), or create a secondary character for them in EVE with a similar name (and god forbid you ever undock and lose a ship).

Otherwise, I'm kinda in Gesa's camp - shooting at each other (among other means of interaction) is part of the game, and having a set of DUST soldiers at your command really should translate to actually having DUST characters available to do tangible things for you ingame that can be interfered with by other people. "Yes, and" is a lot more fun to work with than "No".

[Lyn Farel]

Why are both mutually exclusive btw?

[Morwen Lagann]

"Because CCP said so," more or less.

Whether that means lore being bent to fit gameplay (shared namespace) or not is anyone's guess but there's also the fact that the two use entirely different cloning/reanimation systems. DUST cloning is short-range; capsuleer cloning is not.

And someone else touched on the "god forbid you have both and get podded, what happens then" scenario already.

Then there's the possible issue of 'shared space' in the body with the implants. We know that the implants used by DUST soldiers are basically a chunk added directly onto the brainstem - but we know very little about how capsuleer implants are installed, and where exactly they are in the body aside from on the spinal column. It's very possible than one would interfere with the other either in function or location.

I can think of more reasons why they are or would be mutually exclusive, but none that don't go "OMG YES MARY SUE TIME" for why they wouldn't.

[Gottii]

Personally I think it will be great for EVE RP to have DUST troopers around.  Will focus on character concepts and actions above and beyond "Space Marine" type tropes. 

Capsuleers are the thinkers, the power-brokers, the mega-wealthy, gods of war and trade and science. Basically, way more Sovereign than Shepard.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Personally I think it will be great for EVE RP to have DUST troopers around.  Will focus on character concepts and actions above and beyond "Space Marine" type tropes. 

Capsuleers are the thinkers, the power-brokers, the mega-wealthy, gods of war and trade and science. Basically, way more Sovereign than Shepard.

I was thinking more along the lines of The Illusive Man.

[Seriphyn]

My character is Shepard-like but is capsuleer

Wonder if there is a possibility of a one-time conversion operation.

[Vendrin]

My character is Shepard-like but is capsuleer

Wonder if there is a possibility of a one-time conversion operation.

Yes. It's called biomass your eve character and then create dust character with same name.

[Ghost Hunter]

My character is Shepard-like but is capsuleer

Wonder if there is a possibility of a one-time conversion operation.

Yes. It's called biomass your eve character and then create dust character with same name.

This. But even then, I imagine the genetic mutual-exclusivity would make it a big wall banger.

[BloodBird]

Not to mention EXTREMELY wasteful.

Must your DUST guy have to be the same as your EVE toon? Because that would be hard to explain due to PF fluff, and as mentioned, a great waste to EVE on the Capsuleer stage. There is a lot of progress, skills and most importantly reputation and name-recognition you will be flushing down for this.

Better and simpler IMHO, would be to have your DUST guy work directly for, and with the backing of, Seriphyn. Might even have been a family member (if it was not for the condition of your family) or a friend of the family so that your EVE Capsuleer and DUST toons know each other directly and face-to-face.

[Mithfindel]

I was going to suggest biomassing, but then thought better not. Since that's suggested, anyway, then I'll note my other suggestion: Convince a GM that your name is obscene, and once you're renamed to "(empire) Citizen date()", make a DUST toon. And then ask the original character to be renamed as something more sensible.

And no, this would not make any sense fiction-wise. I know multiple player characters are supposed to be ex-marines/spec ops/etc., but DUST soldiers, I think, are yet another type.

[Ghost Hunter]

Better and simpler IMHO, would be to have your DUST guy work directly for, and with the backing of, Seriphyn. Might even have been a family member (if it was not for the condition of your family) or a friend of the family so that your EVE Capsuleer and DUST toons know each other directly and face-to-face.

This.

Seriphyn can be the Anderson to your DUST character's Shepard, I think. Rather than Seriphyn being the Shepard.