Yes, one day we'll have a place where we only let the good people in.
Who would we allow on such a prestigious list?
Say to yourself "Me, of course", and maybe you can hear me laugh from all the way over here.
Don't put words in my mouth. Being frustrated by the lack of quality in a specific location and wondering if the lack of quality can ever be amended 'so that we can have nice things' (such as a worthwhile place to RP) is not the same as asking that we 'let only nice people in' - I would never ask something that dumb, simply because I would not be included in such an elitist 'in-group'.
People are allowed to be dissatisfied with the quality of things without being made fun off.
I doubt the dev actor left because he was trolled. If he did, that actually seems rather ridiculous to me, and I don't blame the trolls either.
EVE has been nurtured and fostered as a majority community of trolls. Trolling CCP is nothing new ingame. Dev actors get shot at, CCP fleets get smacked in local, and the forums are a cesspool... yet CCP seems to often encourage this behavior, oftentimes by trolling alongside players.
Why should they expect a pristine and perfect community in RP? I wouldn't understand why the RP community would be held to such lofty and strict standards by the very developers who have not only fostered this community, but also take part in it with their unofficial accounts.
If the dev actor ran away with his tail tucked between his legs because he got trolled in the Summit, boo-freaking-hoo. Grow some thick skin and put up your IC fisticuffs. If someone is really acting out of line, the Summit mods will step in.
Keep in mind I'm not defending trolls. I'm criticizing whoever that actor was for leaving 'because they got trolled', if indeed that is the reason.
I don't think the RP community should have to 'behave' any more than they usually do just because it's a dev actor.
I don't think we as RP'ers should have to behave better than 'the common players' either - I believe it's possible to expect something better than flaming, trolling and crap from your average player in general, despite what CCP may or may not endorse or allow or agree to. Hoping and wishing that the playerbase in general can rise above pointless trolling is not a crime and carries no penalty, bar perhaps constant dissapointment.
Without hearing from the actor him/herself, we will not know why exactly he/she left. Ergo, we can only draw conclusions based on what took place prior to the event itself. It is not hard to propose that the actor left because the only meaningful responce to their presence was ridicule over soem fact or other, and even leaving in that situation can be considered an IC act. "So, no-one here but trolls and none seem interested, I'll go ask elsewhere."
Lovely to see the Eve RP community in it's finest form, somehow managing to create entire fowlfarms out of a feather. The sheer hunger for things to drama about must be endless. Now how about someone who was actually involved provides a couple of details before the lynchmob gets too much momentum, shall we?
Jin Otsito, a relatively fresh egger spots something new and potentially interesting. Someone with no profile picture. She points this out with a bit of mirth, then as there's no answer fills the silence with a few terribly bad puns on face. Mostly they're even so bad they don't qualify as puns, instead just using the word face in appropriate spots in her statements.
There was no trolling. There was no teasing. There was no derisiveness or taunts. There was no hostility. There was nothing but a little bad and silly humor. In fact, let me dig up the logs for you ladies and gentlemen.
[ 2012.12.03 17:08:46 ] Anderes Duellene > Good evening, Ladies and Gentlemen.
[ 2012.12.03 17:09:12 ] Solarienne > Sasieni
[ 2012.12.03 17:09:52 ] Jinari Otsito > Did you know you have no face?
[ 2012.12.03 17:10:13 ] Lasairiona > /emote giggles, "Hello."
[ 2012.12.03 17:11:44 ] Scherezad > "Um, hello, sir. My, uh, my deepest, um. Condolences."
[ 2012.12.03 17:12:19 ] Jinari Otsito > Don't get too misty, I'm sure he can find his face someday.
[ 2012.12.03 17:12:34 ] Jinari Otsito > Or has something happened, maybe?
[ 2012.12.03 17:15:30 ] Scherezad > "Um, the, the events at, um, Evaulon."
[ 2012.12.03 17:15:41 ] Jinari Otsito > Ah. I suppose he lost face.
[ 2012.12.03 17:16:02 ] Lasairiona > /emote waves, "Hi Schere."
[ 2012.12.03 17:16:31 ] Scherezad > "Um, he, he lost, um, a lot more. Than, um, face. Oh, um, hello."
[ 2012.12.03 17:16:54 ] Dardalou Tokila > He might have lost his face and honor after the mentioned events?
[ 2012.12.03 17:17:05 ] Jinari Otsito > Well, I'm sure the Serpents will show themselves for a... face off.
[ 2012.12.03 17:18:35 ] Lasairiona > I think you scared him off.
[ 2012.12.03 17:19:00 ] Jinari Otsito > And I didn't even have to make a scary face.
[ 2012.12.03 17:20:01 ] Anderes Duellene > Perhaps I'll return later, when conversation reaches the appropriate level of maturity for what I have to say.
[ 2012.12.03 17:20:06 ] Anderes Duellene > Good evening, pilots.
[ 2012.12.03 17:20:14 ] Anderes Duellene > /emote disconnects
[ 2012.12.03 17:20:41 ] Jinari Otsito > Hmm. Would have thought he could face worse than that.
[ 2012.12.03 17:23:20 ] Lasairiona > /emote groans and shakes her head.
So as you can see, quite clearly, there was no trolling. There was a character acting perfectly IC in a slightly silly way. Frankly, having seen what can go on without comment in The Summit, this is Shakespearean prose. I have in the short life-span of Jinari seen people get farted on(!) for christ's sake. I also have yet to spot any rules against jokes or bad humor. If the above isn't acceptable, I'm going to have to go ahead and ask the moderators to look over this thread, because it's getting dangerously close to urdoinitrong which the rules do in fact prohibit.
As for CCP Falcon, calling paying subscribers stupid (exact word used) for RPing with his actor without going stoneface serious business right off the bat, I find quite unacceptable from an official representative of CCP. Players in moderator positions and such get some leeway for being simply that. Players in voluntary positions. Official CCP representatives should act more professional in my opinion.
Don't worry, though. I'll leave the Summit to the completely serious business that is the hallmark of the channel while there's Yellow there, shall I?
It is perfectly possible to be trolled IC.
You trolled the actor IC, said actor decided to leave and (perhaps) return later, IC. All perfectly valid - he even made a point out of detailing that he disconnected from the summit, instead of just leaving without a word.
As for you personally Jinari, arguing that trolling is not A-OK and pointing out that your displeased with it having effectively 'scared off' a Dev (or a new player, or another older player or ANYONE really) is not saying 'yourdoingitwrong' it's voicing an opinion that happen to be negatively charged towards you as the one engaging in said trolling.
You seem very eager to have the rules of this forum protect you from anyone who voices displeasure towards your actions, but you will want to consider that just because the summit should not be 'stone-faced srsbiz' all the time, people have a right to hope it will be more than baseless fooling around as well - while perfectly okay as an IC action, it's not mandatory, and one can lay off when we actually get some CCP love in the form of dev actors, hopefully leading to great RP.
Tell me again how ofthen that happens, would you? It won't kill you to cut them some slack.
To finish this, kindly tell me where CCP Falcon supposedly called you stupid for RP'ing with him.