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Author Topic: Voluval as truth, especially bad marks.  (Read 5830 times)

Ulphus

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Re: Voluval as truth, especially bad marks.
« Reply #60 on: 12 Aug 2012, 20:23 »

We had a number of conversations at one stage about what might be being measured, and one interesting question was what would happen if you took it twice?

For most people, that might not be an option, but capsuleers?

You're not the same person now that you were when you were 14-18 and got your Voluval. Does this mean you'd get a different mark in a new body?

Maybe. It's not a question that's easy to answer without knowing a bit more than they tell the players.


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Re: Voluval as truth, especially bad marks.
« Reply #61 on: 10 Nov 2017, 05:17 »

In short; a really nifty way to pass down genetic testing and integrate eugenics principles into a tribal society in a culturally acceptable way, without telling them exactly what's going on.

psychosis has not a direct genetical marker and 10% get it indepedently of situation throughout there live.

one could weep out shizophrenia that is genetical related yet shizophrenia can be prevented through good nurture - development experiments with mices.

a predisposition for low strength could be measured by muscel growth hormone.

another approach

what the minmatat have is animistic believe then everything is ensouled or bespirited in some way and a person has a guardian animal, spirit protector or representation in the spirit realm.

what the minmatar shaman might have as model of is a kind spiritual of entanglement with an energy or potential and this potential shows through a small mark.

okay also not the best explanation.
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Re: Voluval as truth, especially bad marks.
« Reply #62 on: 10 Nov 2017, 15:49 »

Well, if you look back in this thread hellgremlin suggests that it might have been a Jove ploy to manipulate the Minmatar gene pool.

Now, given he wrote the chronicle Ray of Matar, I would say his thoughts on the matter carry a fair bit of weight.
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Tara Erata

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Re: Voluval as truth, especially bad marks.
« Reply #63 on: 11 Nov 2017, 02:49 »

Well, if you look back in this thread hellgremlin suggests that it might have been a Jove ploy to manipulate the Minmatar gene pool.

Now, given he wrote the chronicle Ray of Matar, I would say his thoughts on the matter carry a fair bit of weight.

I was thinking hellgremlin's suggestion through with the few medical knowdledge of mine(unfinished nurse edjucation).
it's less that it fails more that there a development vectors which may prove not what the jove may want.(but then perfection is a relative term imho)

the vehrokior mysticsmight want an explanation that is more sound than siebving out sociopaths something like we are experts and therefore a meaning b meaning that he is going to show c menas he is going to be a sociopath.
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« Reply #64 on: 11 Nov 2017, 08:15 »

let's say the jovians planned to uplift the minmatar tribes then tool might have to be introduced through some use of spiritual symbolism like an star spirit or warrior spirit.

then if it is genetic it had to prevent some eugenicism that lead to impairing like mongoloidism.
let's assume one get's bull because of genetic combination then they either have bul for female's with a opposite genetic combination or females get no bull. we know ray of matar seems to appear on either gender as we are not told it's female specific.so male bull has to not marry female bull. but he can choose hoove female.

so jovians uplift minmatar with marker systematic then they need to implement some breeding policy.
otherwise population relying on voluval would eventually  not be capable of more the ball looking at in no time.(can ask my father about this if you want he is a human geneticist specialised in enfermidat hereditaria ... uff i think i misspelled that term)

okay genetic markers are somehow able to look at sexual genomes x and y and warn about bad coupelings. does okkham's razor ask us to assume anything to make this work. well only that ther needs to be an additional marker to the core symbol like fire ... the triangle in the center of the ammatar mandate symbol is the metaphysical symbol for fire by the way
(maybe broken shield he brings fire to the defense burning it in the process)

so let's say there is earth bull, fire bull, air bull and water bull. and fire can marry earth,air water which leads to a possibility of 3 different same tattoord child combinations in bull pairings (easy to calculate) most likely two.

then the tatoo would be with something akin to a radical in chinese writing (kanji?)

well as long as ccp says not otherwise then a voluval tatoo has at least 2 different geometrical lines.

from the tattoo chronicle

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where the soul and destiny of a person are said to be revealed

which also states that tatoos to minmatar are as god to the amarr, basicly revelations of a higher truth.

means they might speak about tatoos as similar to astrology, numerology, "elementalology"(yin yang, i ching)
not sure but i slowly think they have a story for each tatoo and shamefull for the bad tatoos.
as shame is an emotion and what is better suited to stirr emotions than a good story.


and i set the hypothesis that minmatar is a kind of ai we don't yet understand at all
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