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[Creedance Talor]

Though I would ask that ANN be decent as I know you all are human beings... for a removal of my Real Life happenings from the data dump please, the bankrupt Net Cafe, me going to farm life ect.

If you could pin down the specific bits and pieces in logs you'd like removed regarding that and list them in a PM. (and only the RL stuff, because I have no intention of taking this entire thing down) I'll redact them. There were a few entries I didn't publish because they discussed member RL problems/whatever in detail. I'd like to extend this to the entire leak, so if you could help me there, it'd be greatly appreciated.

I feel sorry for you if you can no longer distinguish Real Life stuff from EVE then you definatly need some help dude!

[Casiella]

[mod]Please rephrase in a manner that won't be construed as insulting.[/mod]

[Milo Caman]

Going over the material again, I found one reference to the Net cafe. It's been removed, but it slipped last time, because I frankly didn't consider it particularly significant.

Also the sheer amount of unprovoked hate, bile and rage I've been seeing in OOC and other channels about myself and my corporation is somewhat amusing. I will treasure it for years to come. Evidently I'm doing my job.

[Julianus Soter]

People rallying around John Revenent when he gets dumped on one time. . . whereas I've been dumped on for the past 2.5 years with little to no provocation, and no such sympathetic support.

I don't suppose this is some kind of double standard?

[Jade Constantine]

Also the sheer amount of unprovoked hate, bile and rage I've been seeing in OOC and other channels about myself and my corporation is somewhat amusing. I will treasure it for years to come. Evidently I'm doing my job.

I'd hardly term any reaction you receive at this point "unprovoked" - but that said from what I can see from this forum and the IC reaction on the summit it seems a long long way from "bile and rage" I'd say you are on the receiving end of some eye-rolling mockery perhaps and possibly in the running for the:

"New Eden award for the least impressive infilitration of the year"

But beyond that ... *shrugs* nobody really seems that upset.

Still since I'm (still) banned from the ooc channel I can't speak for that place, maybe they are going nuts there

[Jade Constantine]

People rallying around John Revenent when he gets dumped on one time. . . whereas I've been dumped on for the past 2.5 years with little to no provocation, and no such sympathetic support. I don't suppose this is some kind of double standard?

John is pretty good at separating IC/OOC nonsense Julianus. Even last year when we were feuding with his alliance on the IGS and assassinating people at his memorial he kept a very level head and maintained respectful dialogue on an ooc level and that kind of thing breeds respect and sympathy.

Best way to understand this is probably to compare with recent events you may have been involved in and take a dispassionate assessment of what you could have done better.

[Andreus Ixiris]

Also the sheer amount of unprovoked hate, bile and rage

I find it ironic how unbelievably possible it is to self-servingly misinterpret the emotions of other people.

[Senn Typhos]

Also the sheer amount of unprovoked hate, bile and rage I've been seeing in OOC and other channels about myself and my corporation is somewhat amusing. I will treasure it for years to come. Evidently I'm doing my job.

I'd hardly term any reaction you receive at this point "unprovoked" - but that said from what I can see from this forum and the IC reaction on the summit it seems a long long way from "bile and rage" I'd say you are on the receiving end of some eye-rolling mockery perhaps and possibly in the running for the:

"New Eden award for the least impressive infilitration of the year"

See, this is my favorite part of this matter.

How is Milo, or AI, or anyone in relation to us, the "runner for that award?" Since we aren't the ones to have actually infiltrated IRED to get it, all we did was publish a piece of data. If you want to moan and whine, go find the guy responsible.

Actually, don't, because it's pretty simple to explain why you think that. You don't particularly like AI or its players, and through that lens you're comfortable targeting us OOCly.

But oh no! Didn't you and a bunch of other people just agree that was bad? D:

[Andreus Ixiris]

How is Milo, or AI, or anyone in relation to us, the "runner for that award?" Since we aren't the ones to have actually infiltrated IRED to get it

Creetalor showed me a lot of things that suggest otherwise.

[Milo Caman]

Creetalor showed me a lot of things that suggest otherwise.

That's very nice and all, but you haven't really backed up your accusations.

[Andreus Ixiris]

That's very nice and all, but you haven't really backed up your accusations.

Hey, it's not my information. It's Creetalor and I-RED's business whether they come forth with it. I'm just going to go ahead and say that your skills probably lie in areas other than lying.

[Senn Typhos]

That's very nice and all, but you haven't really backed up your accusations.

Hey, it's not my information. It's Creetalor and I-RED's business whether they come forth with it. I'm just going to go ahead and say that your skills probably lie in areas other than lying.

We're all shocked that you chimed in with an accusation.

[Andreus Ixiris]

Well I was shocked that you guys did something of dubious merit, were called out on it by the majority of the community, then got exceptionally defensive about it.

Wait, did I say "shocked"? I meant "completely unsurprised in any way whatsoever".

[Casiella]

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[Graelyn]

*sigh*

This is bullshit.

Fine, do your infiltration thing. Whatever. But trying to pass it off as RP?

WTF is that shit?