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Shalee Lianne

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What's too far..
« on: 19 Oct 2010, 14:13 »

So someone IMed me today with this:

Anonymous says:
 I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC

shalee @ work says:
:P
 
Anonymous says:
 why don't you have a seat over there?
 hmmm I should create an IC pedophile
 for epic lolz

shalee @ work says:
 No you shouldn't

Anonymous says:
 why not?

shalee @ work says:
 Because it's a line you shouldn't cross, I think

Anonymous says:
 eve doesnt have any lines
 you should know that by now

shalee @ work says:
 You'll be ostracized

Anonymous says:
 i doubt it

shalee @ work says:
 I would guarantee it.
 But if you don't believe me, make a post on the Backstage and see what kind of reaction you would get
 Just put something like "I have in mind of making a character..."

Anonymous says:
 i would just make it without anyone knowing who its main was

shalee @ work says:
 Ok, so I'll post this conversation and X out your name, and see what people think, that sound fair?

Anonymous says:
 lol

shalee @ work says:
 Seriously I'm going to post it okay?

Anonymous says:
 fine
 as long as Im not named

shalee @ work says:
 You wont be. 
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #1 on: 19 Oct 2010, 14:20 »

THE PRIME FICTION HAS NO PEDOS, JUST FEDOS!!11!!1
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #2 on: 19 Oct 2010, 14:47 »

Does EVE PF include child rape and other forms of related despicable behavior? Of course.

Is the fictional depiction of that legal? Depends on your jurisdiction.

Would I ever play with anybody involved at all with such things? Not if I had an inkling. (And yes, this has come up for me in other RP, not in EVE.)
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #3 on: 19 Oct 2010, 15:03 »

I was originally writing a lengthy post quoting a number of CCP's rules for interaction in EVE, but then realised what I was trying to say could be summed up in a few short sentences instead.

The roleplaying community is extremely tolerant of actions that technically violate some of CCP's rules on the basis that we are mature enough to deal with it, provided it contributes to the roleplay community. If we don't like something, we just grimace, ignore it, and maybe create a thread over here to discuss it.

Frankly, however, none of us are going to find a pedophile funny, interesting, or constructive. If, by "for epic lolz" Anonymous means watching him get booted out of each and ever channel as absolutely nobody finds him in anyway worth keeping around... yeah. If he means for other people to find funny and interesting... no. It's just not going to work.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #4 on: 19 Oct 2010, 17:20 »

The human mind is a disgusting thing to possess. The fact that someone who is playing EVE Online (and manages to roleplay as well) decides that his experience would be more "realistic" or "unique" by pretending that he is a pedophile, or constant rapist, is:

A. Such a troll.
B. Requires psychiatric assistance immediately.

I know, I know: "Oh but you are taking away the creativity and freedom of someone contributing to the RP!" Oh, please. This is internet spaceships mixed with war, diplomacy, market trading, exploring and politics. No one in the real world would advertise that they are a sick fuck.

Nikita is excused. (the character)
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #5 on: 19 Oct 2010, 23:41 »

I dont think child rape/molestation should ever be played really, least of all for "epic lulz".  It doesnt really add anything important to the storyline, especially if done in a way thats aiming for "lulz".
 
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #6 on: 19 Oct 2010, 23:53 »

I dont think child rape/molestation should ever be played really, least of all for "epic lulz".  It doesnt really add anything important to the storyline, especially if done in a way thats aiming for "lulz".
 

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompleteMonster

It has its uses if done artistically correct to make the character as described above.

Anything else and yeah, it's dumb and shouldn't be bothered with.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #7 on: 20 Oct 2010, 01:25 »

The mere thought of someone getting the idea of roleplaying that for epic lulz makes me want to punch them in the face, repeatedly. Sorry, but if you find that humorous, something is wrong with you. I realize the lulz would be more coming from shocking the RP community than playing the actual character but still, there are certain lines you do not cross, if only because you're going to upset and offend a lot of people with it.

Furthermore, call me skeptic, but I don't think many people have it in them to roleplay this archetype seriously in EVE. Or for a long time.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #8 on: 20 Oct 2010, 02:17 »

Why would someone want to play this role? This makes me feel sick inside.
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Graanvlokkie

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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #9 on: 20 Oct 2010, 04:41 »

Lets write fiction about rapeing 7 years olds, for epic lulz?

Lets sit around in an IC bar talking about rapeing 7 year olds, for epic lulz?

Lets hit someone in the face at fan-fest, for epic lulz?
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #10 on: 20 Oct 2010, 04:41 »

Always the devils advocate I am.

Realistic? Yes, it would be realistic to have a person who roleplayed such activities. However in keeping with realism, no person would dare let that action come to light (intentionally). Such an individual would invariably fear the social/criminal retribution from being discovered. Ergo, you'd be roleplaying a person who would be roleplaying a normal human being for all interaction.

Caught such an individual would face wrath beyond the normal kind of wrath, on all sides. Any incursion by the outed pilot into any social area would summon guards, bouncers, whatever to detain the individual. Any communication would by necessity, be relegated to long-distance. The best end to be hoped for by the pilot would be this situation, or not being caught at all.

Barring the fact you would offend... almost anyone, the character concept would be a dead end, no matter how played.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #11 on: 20 Oct 2010, 10:56 »

Sure they can roleplay it.

Good luck finding anyone to actually play with though.

I don't think they're twisted or sick, I just think they're a bit silly.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #12 on: 20 Oct 2010, 14:15 »

Eh. If I became aware of it, I would do my damnedest to get him banned by CCP.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #13 on: 20 Oct 2010, 15:00 »

Pushing the margins isn't always a good thing.

There are some places you let your brain go because it is interesting, if scary, to let your brain go there. What does a murderer think like? A serial killer, even? A terrorist? A heartless black-ops type?

Those are sort of "theme park ride" thought processes. We do them because they're fun, if creepy.

Then there are places that push the margins: people (guys, in particular, and especially men playing female characters; it's one of the easiest ways to spot same) tend to detest rapists with a kind of bone-deep loathing. It's a visceral reaction. Likewise, people who personally commit acts of violence against helpless innocents, especially children, tend to get a knot going in our guts.

These can still be played, and sometimes are. OOC reactions will be mixed, and sometimes quite hostile. It depends on where people's own boundaries are.

Pedophilia (the mental condition, not the act of child molestation or rape) is the sort of thing that seems to make people go, "Huh? That's legal?" If we had such a thing as illegal states of mind, pedophilia would be right at the top of the list. Fictional depictions of child pornography ("Loli" porn) are legal in the U.S. only because the good ol' Supreme Court decided that they can't be banned; fictional depictions don't cause suffering to any real children (and are not themselves records of criminal acts), so First Amendment protections apply.

Otherwise? Oh, man, would we ban the stuff.

As for the actual act, we tend to view child-rapist pedophiles as the scummiest of the thick, viscous surface scum of a particularly scummy scum pool, with additional scum ladled on top. Declaring intent to play one of those (and thus at least superficially thinking like one) is much like declaring, "I think I'll go physically soak my brain in raw sewage, just for the luls." Playing one would be comparable to actually doing so.

It'll get about the same reaction.

Minor points for being avant-garde. Major points off for disgusting absolutely everybody. This would be the act of a major, major troll.
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Re: What's too far..
« Reply #14 on: 20 Oct 2010, 19:35 »

It's kinda sad that I get the feeling just from the first comment in Shalee's posted chat log that I know exactly who this person is.

And assuming that feeling happens to be accurate, I'd say that person genuinely thinks they'd be funny if they did it.
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