Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Synthia]

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381390&find=unread

Event actor Hilen Tukoss returns, after ~3 years, posts on IGS, is now requesting Jovian body parts (from that event way, way back) for research purposes.

Curious.

These body parts will push him close to a breakthrough, the likes of which has not been seen since capsules&clones became a thing.

I See.

A number of things spring to mind:

The phrasing of the post - there are a few anomalies, which raise the possibility that this is not in fact Hilen Tukoss at all, that it is someone, or something else.

The purpose of the body parts - the ones that spring to mind, are requiring a Jovian body to unlock something in a device somewhere (in the style of Leeloo in the 5th Element for example), a Jovian body for someone to jump into (as some kind of disguise), a Jovian body for something to jump into (meat puppets of the Machine).

Oh dear.

I don't remember the exact details, but as I recall, the Other is some kind of creature that lives in the Sleeper virtual worlds, and wants to enter real space. In addition to this, something about the Sleeper virtual populations requiring real bodies in order to live/stay sane/population control/something else. This sort of thing was in Templar One, as I recall.

As was the whole thing about DUST implants requiring Sleeper body parts to create - resulting in capsuleers massacring the cryogenically frozen real populations of the Sleepers, with a consequential massacre of their virtual populations.

So these Jovian bodies could be used as some kind of thing to evacuate the Sleeper population, away from w-space, back into the real world, possibly in order to combat the Jovian Disease, and restore Jovian society, kicking out whatever Sansha's Nation elements might be present.

Good heavens.

Or, creation of a Jovian body, in order that The Other, can escape sleeperspace, enter realspace into the body, and begin it's war on the cluster.

Red God have Mercy !

So what are your thoughts on this ?

I think it might be a lore introduction to some of the things mentioned at the EVE Vegas thing - those weird permadeath characters they discussed as a potential idea, or a lore introduction to some other things that have not yet been hinted at.

Thoughts ?

[Mizhara]

Thoughts? More twaddle that doesn't advance the storylines of New Eden for shit. I don't need nor care for more speshul snowflake spess majikz mumbo jumbo. Give me more politics, inter-faction strain/advancement and some god damned conflicts. Contrary to what they seem to think the last few years, this isn't in fact a rip-roaring spess adventja for spess Indiana Joss Whedon and his wacky crew of spess archaeologists. It's a sandbox in a setting that hasn't actually advanced for years now and this is just more distracting horseshit that will do nothing for the game or the setting.

[Jace]

I don't really have an opinion on it. I wasn't involved before and I won't be this time.

[Makoto Priano]

So. Notice the description for Zainou-- founder was the first person to transcribe himself to a machine. Odds are that's what happened here. The exact circumstances are probably some sort of attack-or-other, or gettin' too frisky with Sleeper tech, or...

My guess is that Hilen Tukoss wants Jove-y bits so that he can make himself a new clone body...? Or something.

I doubt the Other is going to factor at all.

[Lithium Flower]

Hilen Tukoss - "do it yourself" version. 

[Silas Vitalia]

Good to see some things happening on IGS.  I'm guessing the good doctor is not under his own control anymore.

I hope some of you push the event forward and others of you try and push it backwards

[Louella Dougans]

maybe this is just CCP going to do a tying of loose ends, so that people stop bringing up A'J at fanfest.

[Ghost Hunter]

They still haven't said whats happened to the rest of the Jovians, though I wouldn't be surprised if all but a select few ended up dead at this point.

[Silver Night]

I still have some of those parts - might have to dig them up.

[Louella Dougans]

it'd wrap up that whole thing as well - remove enough of the jovian body parts, people stop asking questions about what use they are.

[Silas Vitalia]

That teleporting Jovian event was like what 11 years ago? Are there many still around who have those parts?

[Ghost Hunter]

That teleporting Jovian event was like what 11 years ago? Are there many still around who have those parts?

A few collectors come to mind who've been aggregating them over the years. Plenty of them show up on contracts, given enough time. The Fullerene Shards are the most distinct and recognizable part - the others are quite generic in bulk warehouse sales.

[Esna Pitoojee]

There's one big difference here from round one of A'J that is making me a little shifty about the whole thing.

First round of A'J was very freeform - Tukoss showed up, made a channel, and said "hey, let's do some science". There was no obvious end-goal: while Dropbear OOC told us we were getting close to some story-critical discoveries, he also said we'd jumped off in some entirely unexpected directions. Yes, we had to sort through mountains of derp and failed attempts to get to the interesting bits, but there were some truly interesting discoveries about game mechanics, lore, and other things.

And, that's science, really: You just keep on trying until you run out of cake, and the science gets done, you make a neat gun report for Site 1, etc etc.

In contrast, right now this seems to be a fairly dirt-basic "retrieve item quest": Insert body parts, get science. There's no research to be done - frankly, we can't do to much in the way of actual research on a generic item in the game - and the options for participation are extremely limited.

And that saddens me, because what got a lot of people into A'J was the freeform inventiveness of it. We had piles of people who were otherwise not interested in "roleplay" hopping on board because they were asked to just do experiments or research (often in space).

[Tiberious Thessalonia]

The thing which has me bitter about the whole thing is that this is basically what their last event was.

EVE literally has Themepark Style gathering quests, just writ large.

[Silas Vitalia]

The thing which has me bitter about the whole thing is that this is basically what their last event was.

EVE literally has Themepark Style gathering quests, just writ large.

I think the corpspeak term is 'dynamic content generation.'

Right? Right?  :/