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Author Topic: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?  (Read 11476 times)

Katrina Oniseki

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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #45 on: 05 Oct 2013, 19:50 »

My mistake. I thought the Ealurians were the most common. Oh well.

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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #46 on: 05 Oct 2013, 19:57 »

My mistake. I thought the Ealurians were the most common. Oh well.

If it's any consolation, I wish you were correct.

Though also, regrettably, the Ealur are also black.

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They have dark skin and dark, curly hair, but a wide range of eye colors, with lighter colors being somewhat common.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ealur

It's unfortunate how much CCP really has painted a picture of faux civil-war era slavery, at least in my mind.
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #47 on: 05 Oct 2013, 20:01 »

My mistake. I thought the Ealurians were the most common. Oh well.

If it's any consolation, I wish you were correct.

Though also, regrettably, the Ealur are also black.

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They have dark skin and dark, curly hair, but a wide range of eye colors, with lighter colors being somewhat common.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ealur

It's unfortunate how much CCP really has painted a picture of faux civil-war era slavery, at least in my mind.

Figures. Whatever. Have it your way, CCP!


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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #48 on: 05 Oct 2013, 21:10 »

Yes, talking about the Brutor in particular. As far as I am Aware, the other Minmatar aren't black. If 50% to 75% of the slaves are Minmatar and 50% of these are Brutor, most slaves are still not black either.

Though, I agree that CCP kind'a painted a picture there thatb would remind many US people of Southern US slavery, for sure.
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #49 on: 05 Oct 2013, 21:17 »

Yes, talking about the Brutor in particular. As far as I am Aware, the other Minmatar aren't black. If 50% to 75% of the slaves are Minmatar and 50% of these are Brutor, most slaves are still not black either.

Though, I agree that CCP kind'a painted a picture there thatb would remind many US people of Southern US slavery, for sure.

Starkmanir and Thukker are apparently also dark skinned. Ealurians too. So that's a pretty significant portion.

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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #50 on: 05 Oct 2013, 21:41 »

Starkmanir and Thukker are apparently also dark skinned. Ealurians too. So that's a pretty significant portion.

And the Krusual, as well, just to beat the horse a little more.

Seriously, what were they thinking?
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #51 on: 06 Oct 2013, 02:31 »

I gues  they were thinking about the same thing as when they designed the Caldari aesthetic as decidedly whitebread Space Nazi, or the distinctly Asian bloodlines as mystics or having a backwards caste society, or..

Really, most of the races and bloodlines at least started out as decidedly unselfconscious mash-ups of a few cultural and racial stereotypes.
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #52 on: 06 Oct 2013, 03:43 »

There is a huge difference between a character made only to look comical and assumed that way and a character that tries to be serious, and definitely fails completely and looks comical instead.
'Character made to look comical' and 'character that tries to be serious' aren't mutually exclusive. Many times, Makkal has said something serious that I, the player, knew was foolish or silly.

That's a question of scale.
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #53 on: 08 Oct 2013, 05:15 »

An initial sketch for the holdings of Odelya:

The d’Hanguest were given Palas VIII (a largely uninhabited oceanic world with some hotels and ships used for touristic purposes) after the realms of Khanid split from the Empire. They also lost Lustrevik as this time, as it remained Empire space. Yet Isin d’Hanguest, the Duke of Lustrevik and Baron of Palas VIII continued to call himself Duke of Lustrevik and Baron of Palas, later the order was revised and it became Duke of Palas and Lustrevik, with Lustrevik now often omitted, it was an accepted honorific title to compensate for his loss and paying for his loyalty. The family was originally a family of frontline solider (during the heyday of the Reclaiming), then admirals and officers (after the Kingdom was formed) and have now entirely evolved into bureaucrats and entrepreneurs, farming taxes, producing arms and so on. (I will provide a wiki entry for Odelya when I find the time). As a consequence I am not claiming that Odelya wields power over the lives of millions. But she is from an old and wealthy yet decaying family, spoiled and not really able to live up with her heritage, since originally she wasn’t the heir, but her older, deceased brother. She doesn’t really care for Palas or the family business (that’s what her sister does), but she certainly enjoys her wealth and family estates on Khanid Prime (mansions, gardens etc.).
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #54 on: 08 Oct 2013, 08:24 »

I think that the thing that still might annoy me a little is the claim itself. It still means that her family was rather very powerful in the past, even if not now. It means that you still imprint something of a very large scale on PF history on who owns what at a cosmic scale.

I would be tempted if I were you to temper it by saying that her family was actually a contender for the titles in question. Which means others had claims as well, making all of it really murky...
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« Reply #55 on: 09 Oct 2013, 10:11 »

And no, Ana will likely not let the whole sexy holo thing die. It's way too much fun to use as a stick to beat a moralist like Odelya over the head with. ;)

Please elaborate...
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #56 on: 09 Oct 2013, 10:13 »

And no, Ana will likely not let the whole sexy holo thing die. It's way too much fun to use as a stick to beat a moralist like Odelya over the head with. ;)

Please elaborate...

Odelya may or may not be a pornstar. We like to believe it is the first option.

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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #57 on: 09 Oct 2013, 10:16 »

I require demand confirmed references to execute a thorough peer review of the above hypothesis.
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2013, 10:28 by Anslol »
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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #58 on: 09 Oct 2013, 11:16 »

I require demand confirmed references to execute a thorough peer review of the above hypothesis.

That's actually what Rodj Blake said. Many lols were had.

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Re: The Holdings of Odelya (and more)—where shall I go?
« Reply #59 on: 09 Oct 2013, 11:22 »

Screw Rodj. Sauce nao. NAO.
(because Anslol going after a pornstar holder is going to be funnier than Aldrith accidentlying his face with I-RED's mystery rocket fuel drink)
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2013, 11:26 by Anslol »
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