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[Katrina Oniseki]

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-terms-of-service-update-1/

You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.

Does this mean we cannot cast ourselves to be representatives of Nation, or Ishukone, or other groups? Is this a ToS ruling that says we can only act in the interests of them, but cannot claim any official ties?

[Anslol]

I think it's more to do with people posing as GM Characters like Thoun et al. But I agree with you that...this language is a little bit too broad. Could be applied to anyone, anytime, should CCP so feel.

But, I'm leaning more towards interdicting potential scams from fake GM Characters, etc, given the (sort of) revival of live events.

[Lithium Flower]

I think it simply means that you can talk only for yourself and your corporation, rather than for NPC corporation.

But it doesn't prevent you from being part of said NPC corporation.

For example, I am part of Protectorate, and I can speak as member of protectorate, but I can't speak for Protectorate itself.
For you it is the same, with only difference, that you aren't member of NPC corporation by game mechanics, so you claim IC-ly that you have citizenship papers for a corporation.

But for said NPC Corporations we are nobody, just regular citizens and workers. Politics of said NPC corporations and their actions is in hands of CCP.

So, as far as I understand, nothing really changed.

[Anslol]

Well GD changed holy crap, it's blowing up with rage. The hell?

[Katrina Oniseki]

Well GD changed holy crap, it's blowing up with rage. The hell?

Not rage. Just trolling.

[Sofia Roseburn]

Player entities, not NPCs.

To stop people impersonating community figures e.g. faking being a Somer Blink employee.

[Anslol]

DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT SUPPORT SCAMMING...but...

I can see why people would be pissed given Roseburn's comment. Seems a bit like discouraging new ways of scamming and generally disreputable behavior from scoundrels and con artists disguised as neerdowells or do gooders.

i.e. shit's making it less grimdark? O-o

[Lithium Flower]

Player entities, not NPCs.

To stop people impersonating community figures e.g. faking being a Somer Blink employee.

Player entities - yes, but for loyalists NPC entity is more... interesting question 

[Katrina Oniseki]

Player entities, not NPCs.

To stop people impersonating community figures e.g. faking being a Somer Blink employee.

It says "NPCs" in no uncertain wording. Players are listed separately in the same sentence.

[Aelisha Montenagre]

TBH I just read it as a clause in the EULA that prevents us having the authoritative voice in such matters.  For example; We are a subsidiary of X is passive, does not present you as the authority of X and in fact attributes X's actions and opinions as your default unless corrected.  To say 'As X employees we feel that Y' is, however, active, assumes the identify of X and is thus in breach of good faith. 

As with most 'rules' when so many people break them or intend to bend them, there is only so far enforcement can go, none of us have anything to worry about, even with the potential of targeted reports.

[Esna Pitoojee]

I've had a GM reply shown to me that suggests this was meant as an extension of the of the recent changes to recent EULA/ToS changes regarding similar names - i.e., people pretending to be specific other people; for instance, the "hey I'm the CEO's alt, I can't get on my main right now, give director roles pls?" scam and variations thereof.

However, if there's one thing EVE's GMs aren't, it is consistent. I expect we'll see this being used in other ways soon enough.


Regarding NPCs: I suspect that this is being aimed at people claiming to be NPC representatives of the empires and using this (along with the offer of being involved in a "live event") to try and scam others into doing things for them. I do not believe it will be used against RPers being their characters, although someone impersonating a specific NPC (i.e., a Sarpati family member, some member of the Privy Council, etc) might potentially get slapped with it as well.

[Gabriel Darkefyre]

It may be a way for them to recover the Identities of NPC Entities currently in the Hands of Players as well, like the Bloody Hands of Matar or the Defiants.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3447347#post3447347

[Morwen Lagann]

It may be a way for them to recover the Identities of NPC Entities currently in the Hands of Players as well, like the Bloody Hands of Matar or the Defiants.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3447347#post3447347

Possibly, but I think a TOS/EULA change is a little over the top for something that could be done so easily and innocuously through a couple authorized tweaks in the database as I suggested in that thread.

[Anslol]

I can't help but wonder though, are RP'ers actually at risk here? Like someone saying they're with the Bloody Hands or SoCT or any NPC group. Would they really drop the ban hammer for something so trivial?

[Morwen Lagann]

Doubtful.

That won't stop certain people from submitting petitions anyway just to be assholes.