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[Katrina Oniseki]

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=250153

I have another balance announcement for our Odyssey 1.1 release to share: we are going to make NOS good again.

In ye old times, Nosferatu was fairly broken. It used to drain cap from your target regardless of how much cap your target had, and deposit it into your cap pool. This meant you could generate cap from thin air as long as you could target any ship. We had nano Dominixs permanently cap stable by draining some cap-dry frig and all kinds of other nonsense.

Unfortunately when this got addressed, it was nerfed into the ground by basing the success of the NOS activation off the relative PERCENTAGE of cap for each ship. NOS went from extremely overpowered to fairly useless. You can never depend on your opponent having a higher % cap than you, and especially not when you're using a ship that wants to win the cap war by neutralizing the enemy.

Our plan for this is fairly simple - we want to make successful NOS activation based on relative cap amount, not percentage.

This means if you turn on your NOS, and you have 125 cap in your cap pool, and your opponent has 370, the NOS works regardless of relative % cap.

The biggest effect here will most likely be that any time you're fighting up a class (frig vs cruiser, cruiser vs BS, etc) NOS will become a much more attractive choice. It also means that in fights with several ship sizes present, deciding on a target for your NOS should be more intuitive (target something big).

Gimme feedback o/

(PS - this would of course effect all sizes and all metas)

Interestingly, this also buffs Capacitor Flux Coils, since they reduce your maximum cap pool while raising recharge rate. Should be interesting.

[Shintoko Akahoshi]

Intriguing! Especially with the new Armageddon...

[Morwen Lagann]

I make no secret over the fact that I messed my pants in a good way when I saw that post.

[orange]

So putting a utility NOS in any spare slot on a Frigate.

[Della Monk]

And the unwritten counterpart to 'nosing up in size is good' is 'nosing down in size is bad'. That'll be interesting

[Shintoko Akahoshi]

So putting a utility NOS in any spare slot on a Frigate.

Especially an armor tanking frigate. This could be the fuel that finally really drives AARs...

[Lyn Farel]

Mhh. Interesting.

I get that heavy NOSes will mostly be useful with caps around ? Could we see weird setups with logis so full of cap that they will accept that a few of their mates start to suck cap out of their own in addition to the cap transfers they already have ?

[orange]

Could we see weird setups with logis so full of cap that they will accept that a few of their mates start to suck cap out of their own in addition to the cap transfers they already have ?

At first glance, it seems like that would be rather restrictive unless someone is flying one of the specialized NOS ships.  The range on cap transfers on a logi generally exceeds the range on NOSs.

[Victoria Stecker]

So nos will work best on small ships, while bigger ships will likely default to using a neut. So not a huge change.

[Esna Pitoojee]

Indeed, quite nice. It makes the Nos a viable choice for smaller hulls (Curse/Pilgrim, looking at you) while keeping them from being an instant "infinite cap button" for every engagement.

[Havohej]

I make no secret over the fact that I messed my pants in a good way when I saw that post.

The Shadow of Arzad (my main Curse fit) popped a stiffy, for sure.

CCP Rise

[Havohej]

So putting a utility NOS in any spare slot on a Frigate.

Especially an armor tanking frigate. This could be the fuel that finally really drives AARs...

Don't forget shield boosting Shaguars   I remember those days, wheeeeeeee!

[Saikoyu]

YES!!!!

My lovely NOS is coming back.  Oh, my frigates missed you so much. 

[Shintoko Akahoshi]

So putting a utility NOS in any spare slot on a Frigate.

Especially an armor tanking frigate. This could be the fuel that finally really drives AARs...

Don't forget shield boosting Shaguars   I remember those days, wheeeeeeee!

Sure, but ancillary shield boosters already don't take cap. Though I can totally see some interesting long-duration shield tanking setups fueled by these.

[Kyoko Sakoda]

Rise does certainly know what he's doing.