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[orange]

Interesting.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Just wanted to contribute to this fine thread here.

[Lyn Farel]

Well, interesting, but that doesn't explain why Istvaan knows about all of this then ? :confused:

[kalaratiri]

Well, interesting, but that doesn't explain why Istvaan knows about all of this then ? :confused:

He doesn't 'know', it's guesswork.

Istvaan is just quite good at guessing.

[Ciarente]

Yeah, I recall Eva telling us a whole bunch of 'crazy guesswork' complete with footnotes to the ICly available info it was drawn from, that a year or so later turned up in CCP PF.

It's all there, people. You just need to dredge for it.

[hellgremlin]

Well, interesting, but that doesn't explain why Istvaan knows about all of this then ? :confused:

Istvaan knows about it, because a decade ago, what happens to Jamyl now, also happened to him. In fact, that thing happening to him back then, is why Istvaan did all the awesome things he's done throughout his lifetime, and why he's always been so insufferably successful.

Long story short: Istvaan started as a frigate pilot for a corporation called Means to an End. This corporation was escorting a KK personnel transport on an uneventful trip, and then the formation disappeared into a stargate for four years, and came out all weird. This is when Istvaan and the others started hearing the voice. The former KK personnel and the MtaE pilots then formed Endless Corporation, which became one of New Eden's first capsuleer megacorps. It expanded very rapidly, becoming involved in military industry, and became the first Caldari capsuleer corp to make business contact with the Amarr - specifically, Sabaoth Inc., allied to... the Sarum family... where Endless traded high technology for Sabaoth's access to, let's say, willing manpower. All the while, as they amassed power, Endless Corp were working on a secret project - an "Incursion gate" or a stargate leading to nowhere. This secret project was worked on under the guidance of the voice.

While this was going on, another faction of humans, whom we'll call the Navigators, was compelling yet another faction called the Daas, or Das Paragon, to interfere with Endless Corporation's activities, having been informed by Jovians that Endless Corporation is just a puppet for some unknown and malign great force in the universe. Endless Corp and Das Paragon enter a state of cold, then hot war, both of them merely chess pieces being moved on a board, literally not knowing what they're doing because it's so damn mysterious. It all comes to a head when the Daas discover the incursion gate, huge battle ensues, at first the Daas look like they're losing, but eventually they persevere, and... pull a 300-year old dying explorer from the gate before Endless can get to him themselves and complete whatever nefarious thing they were doing.

In his dying breath, the explorer warns the Daas of things no-one in New Eden knows about. Things that live in the space between stargates. Things that watch us, and plan to make use of us for their own ends.

Unfortunately for the Daas, the battle against Endless Corporation at the incursion gate forces them to withdraw most of their Home Guard. Then Istvaan dispatches two cruisers full of nerve gas to Daasa, the Daas homeworld, and kills them all before word can spread. (That's the genocide I refer to in my CONCORD criminal data sheet, by the way.) At this point, the voice leaves Istvaan and the other "posssessed" EC alone. Whatever its needs were, they were met.

All this was written a decade ago, by yours truly and a number of other talented writers.

[Katrina Oniseki]

Whatever its needs were, they were met.

Or failed.

[Lyn Farel]

Uh, ok... I must be dumb because I did not understand the slightest thing... : |

Yeah, I recall Eva telling us a whole bunch of 'crazy guesswork' complete with footnotes to the ICly available info it was drawn from, that a year or so later turned up in CCP PF.

It's all there, people. You just need to dredge for it.

Where ?

[Safai]

The prophecy of Macaper holds the key! ;p

Yes.

Unnnnngh this thread is awesome. Thank you for the write-up, Isty.

[Arnulf Ogunkoya]

I remember reading the story about the assault on the incursion gate. At the time I took it to be a decent EVE/Warhammer 40K crossover, or possibly EVE/Cthulhu Mythos. It never occurred to be that it might reflect CCP canon at all.

[Creep]

I remember reading the story about the assault on the incursion gate. At the time I took it to be a decent EVE/Warhammer 40K crossover, or possibly EVE/Cthulhu Mythos. It never occurred to be that it might reflect CCP canon at all.

Where might I find this?

[hellgremlin]

It's archived but it's in a terrible state. It used to be on a lovely webpage which has since collapsed a number of times, only to be salvaged time and time again.

edit: here we go:

http://eve.klaki.net/ec/fiction/

The stories are out of order, many are missing, and I must remind any who read them that when I wrote them I was 10 years younger than I am today. My eyes blister at the sight of these grammar fuckups. The story with the big battle is titled Heaven, but the others are all about events leading up to Heaven.

Anyway, feel free to pore over the skeleton of the Endless Corporation, as it remains on the internet. It's a small window into what roleplay looked like in the earliest days of Eve :p

[hellgremlin]

I remember reading the story about the assault on the incursion gate. At the time I took it to be a decent EVE/Warhammer 40K crossover, or possibly EVE/Cthulhu Mythos. It never occurred to be that it might reflect CCP canon at all.

Coincidentally, I cite H.P. Lovecraft as one of my primary literary influences. Him, and Frank Herbert. From Lovecraft comes the cosmic horror, from Herbert the plots within plots and penchant for convoluted intrigue that spans across time. One day, when I am almost dead, I aspire to be as good a writer as these men. Not nearly there yet.

[Lyn Farel]

Are these stories based on ingame events ?

[hellgremlin]

When these stories were written, there was no game yet, or it was in its earliest, most rudimentary form. That's why none of the place names in my old stories correspond to places on TQ today - the alpha/beta was done in a small constellation that no longer exists. I miss Enelaise.

All we had to go on, was a small number of chronicles (called Peek of the Week back then), short stories, and other elements of setting that got us all addicted to the game that would be Eve. We developed our own stories from these.

It's funny, but now that I think about it, the whole thing with the Amarr Empire and Caldari State being buddies pretty much started with us... Endless Corporation and Sabaoth Inc, that is. When we announced our alliance, the Eve community of the day went through a mild uproar, because it was completely unthinkable for the hard-working Caldari to ally with the slave-driving Amarr.