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GoGo Yubari

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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #120 on: 02 Jun 2012, 10:55 »

I've had a lot of doubts about this one over it's development cycle.

Some of those doubts are being firmly put to rest, to my relief. Others not so much.

I wonder what those are more specifically.

To me this is World of Tanks with giants robots and set in the Battletech universe. It looks like that's pretty much what we're going to be getting and I'm happy. I hope the campaign map or whatever they will implement will be a lot more interesting than in WoT, though.
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Silas Vitalia

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« Reply #121 on: 23 Jul 2012, 11:58 »

Beta Report:

Mostly awesome.

Right now all matches are 100% random so no pre-setting teams, so you can't coordinate fits or mechs or even strategy really. More like a slower paced random team deathmatch than what we'll get with the full game.

1. Overall  - Having a lot of fun.  Beta matches are running about 10 minutes each, so a lot of instant gratification. Log in, jump on, explode giant robots.  Controls are suitably complicated but nothing at a TIE FIGHTER level. You can expect to be walking around and shooting people pretty quickly once you get the handle on the differences between where you are looking, and where you are traveling. the HUD has a great display for the direction you are walking vs pointing, so it's much much easier to coordinate than from what I remember of the old old pc game.

2. Combat - The pacing feels about right for my tastes, with the larger mechs lumbering along and the small scout mechs able to run 3 or 4 times as fast, and if piloted well run rings around the larger mechs and gnatting them to death, much like a frigate soloing a buffer fit BS in eve under the right circumstances.  Now I've done this a few times already, but if one of these scout mechs gets complacent and continues to orbit in the same direction, you can always 'stop chasing' and wait for him to cross your field of fire, and then open up with an alpha strike (on something like an atlas), and explode him nice and good.

Weapons - Lasers have huuuuge heat penalties, if you are shooting with more than a few for more than one volley you will overheat and temporarily shut down your mech. I love that the game designers are not making it easy on you with lasers.  You try and load up a lot of large lasers and spam people you will be useless in combat.  You really have to pace yourself and not get too antsy when using laser mechs or you will die while overheated.

Projectiles - Love them so far, but you really must watch your ammo

Missiles - Long Range Missiles will be a problem depending on how they adjust anti missile systems and jamming/whatever.   Right now all you need is a scout to run up and lock onto a target, and you can have a whole squad of long range missile mechs a million miles away and launching ridiculous volleys.  You can defend yourself with terrain, etc. but long range open field type maps will be a shooting gallery. Picture 100 caracals at 100 km in eve and spamming you to ruin.

Sniping:  I think if they don't tune this right it will be a problem.  A few mechs with long range projectile cannons can really ruin your day quickly if they are coordinated.  I think coordinated teams on teamspeak with missiles and sniper guns will ruin most teams on larger maps.  Don't expect to get a big hulking mech anywhere near these guys and not die if they know what they are doing.

Armor / Survivability -  I'd like a bit of an HP buff across the board, I think you can explode people a little bit too fast.  Overexposing yourself and walking around a corner into a few enemies can be immediate death in something slow.  Maybe that's intentional.

Balance - They will need to implement a point system of some sort for competitive PVP because right now its pretty much the Atlas parade on a lot of my matches.  I think for the 'real' game when you are losing real money for these mechs it might balance out, much like in eve you dont see all-bhaalgorn fleets every day.  The larger mechs will be much more expensive and that might help.

I won't say the Atlas is OP per se, but much like a Bhaalgorn anything getting within a certain distance is going to die, generally speaking.

Maps - I think they are a little generic right now, but I think they are planning on adding many more.  But some nice and open and some with more obstacles.

Jump Jets - I haven't found these useful for 'escape' so much but good for getting around.  What goes up must come down and you can just hold your reticle over where they are going to land and blast them to ruin on the way down.

Fitting - Similar to EVE with slots and weight availability, and also restricted like eve that certain types of weapons only in certain slots. Each mech has 'variants' that can fit different types of weapons in those slots. So you can get a 'laser' version of this mech and configure those how you want, but you won't be adding giant railguns to it unless you buy the mech that supports those.


So in conclusion it looks very promising, and I think with coordinated and dedicated teamwork will be an extremely tense and also fun game.  Mindless fun with random deathmatches but potential for some serious fit-fu and fleet commanding.







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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #122 on: 23 Jul 2012, 13:04 »

Jump Jets - I haven't found these useful for 'escape' so much but good for getting around.  What goes up must come down and you can just hold your reticle over where they are going to land and blast them to ruin on the way down.

Is it a full stop when you hit the ground, or do you maintain some forward momentum?
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Silas Vitalia

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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #123 on: 23 Jul 2012, 13:08 »

Jump Jets - I haven't found these useful for 'escape' so much but good for getting around.  What goes up must come down and you can just hold your reticle over where they are going to land and blast them to ruin on the way down.

Is it a full stop when you hit the ground, or do you maintain some forward momentum?

I'll double-check, it might just be my poor piloting....

From what I recall you lose forward momentum the longer you are in the air, so the first part of your 'jump' you are moving as fast as you were walking, and if you blast all the way to the peak, you are pretty much at a standstill.  So I think you can make some nice 'hops' at a good pace but hold it too long and you slow down quite a bit.

But also might be my poor piloting trying to manage not being shot and radar and weapon systems and jump jet buttons....

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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #124 on: 23 Jul 2012, 14:14 »

That don't make no sense at all...
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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #125 on: 23 Jul 2012, 14:21 »

I will jump into something fast and grasshopper later tonight and report back ;)

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« Reply #126 on: 23 Jul 2012, 14:26 »

Heh. Thanks. Too bad it can't be an actual Grasshopper...I like that mech.

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« Reply #127 on: 23 Jul 2012, 14:46 »

One of the very neat things is that the 'pre-game' functions are done in a different engine, sort of a mini browser.  It'd be like having your eve fitting window and chat functions as a separate program, you can fit your mechs, spend resources etc, chat, and only when you 'launch' do you actually load up the full screen combat mode.

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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #128 on: 23 Jul 2012, 14:52 »

IIRC, League of Legends does the same sort of thing, matchmaking and everything run in a launcher, full game only runs while you're actually in the game. It's a good setup imo.
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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #129 on: 23 Jul 2012, 17:42 »

Anyone who plays BF3 will recognise that sort of system with the Battlelog - all matchmaking, stats and basic functionality are all run through the online-Battlelog and the game only fires up when you join a match or say, be boring and play the SP campaign.
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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #130 on: 23 Jul 2012, 18:55 »

Jump jet Report:

As described. You lose momentum the longer you activate the jets.  So longish 'hops' better than holding it in completely and losing all forward velocity.

Also, you can totally wreck yourself falling from extreme jump height. I blew a leg off. :P

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« Reply #131 on: 24 Jul 2012, 04:44 »

Hrmph. I guess that's a bit better than a full stop no matter what. Still silly, but it could be worse. Thanks for the intel, Silas.
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« Reply #132 on: 24 Jul 2012, 08:05 »

The only real issue right now is the lack of restrictions on the team deathmatch we are forced to play for beta.

IE there's no maximum number of any type of mech, so the majority of rounds end up being 75% ATLAS parades, and without good voice communication which you won't get with strangers, no way to coordinate effectively and not be blobbed.

So you pick something fun and then turn a corner and oh, there's 4 atlas mechs, goodbye! *explode*

Once these things start costing real money I think they will even out a bit more....


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Re: MechWarrior MMO
« Reply #133 on: 24 Jul 2012, 09:54 »

Beta test level: Steiner.
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« Reply #134 on: 01 Aug 2012, 14:17 »

WTB Eve partners who are in closed beta as well: Add my name "Vitalia" (figured I'd make it easy)
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