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[Kaleigh Doyle]

B8....b8 *squints* Aw, crap, you sunk my battleship!

[lallara zhuul]

Personally I feel that businessmen are the cancer that is destroying the human race.
Just the concept of Profit magically appearing without actually exploiting someone else seems delightfully ignorant to me.

Don't get me started on economics.

[Lillith Blackheart]

It's not really exploitation if it is willfully entered into by the exploitee.

[Kamiko Hautala]

That doesn't really make sense, Lillith. If you agree to something that is an exploitation, then obviously you wouldn't know it's an exploit. That's the point of exploitation: Using someone for a purpose.

I'm just glad there isn't a fascist here, hah.

[Casiella]

* Casiella looks around wildly for Tibus Heth

[lallara zhuul]

Maximum profit.

[Lillith Blackheart]

Maximum profit.

Yes, I've seen Mr. Bales' talk. However the thing about that is that it's not so much a business issue as it is a rule of law issue. It is also a horrendous issue that we need to get off our butts and do something about. It isn't just businessmen taking advantage of that, it's everyone in any sort of place of power.

That doesn't really make sense, Lillith. If you agree to something that is an exploitation, then obviously you wouldn't know it's an exploit. That's the point of exploitation: Using someone for a purpose.

The point I was making is that oftentimes "exploitation" is misappropriated by people - obviously not in the situation of third world and second world slavery, but let's take for instance Prostitution. Pornography. Etc. Though some of these situations are exploitive situations, not all are, many people willfully step into these situations.

I was mostly speaking to the point that the word isn't always properly used.

I'm just glad there isn't a fascist here, hah.

...that depends on what one considers "fascist". . .

[Wanoah]

Image will break the forum, so linking:

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/left-vs-right-world/

Aaand, a handy visual aid to illustrate some of the things I can get annoyed at on demand:

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/the-billion-dollar-gram/



Finally, liberal leftie reporting in I'm with Gandhi and Nelson Mandela. \o/

[Casiella]

Image will break the forum, so linking:

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/left-vs-right-world/

If there was ever a good explanation of why I find the "left / right" dichotomy insufficient... 

[Lillith Blackheart]

Given what people consider "Communist", it is hardly a left wing ideal.

[scagga]

I find the lack of respect for authority in this thread worrying! 

[Carmilla]

Hmmmm

So I'm like Mamoud Abbas and Pope Benedict XVI??? Something got screwed up there...

[Vikarion]

I don't like that "quiz", so I'm not going to bother.

I'm what's probably best described as a pro-life libertarian.

I believe that there is a "hard cap" on the amount of social justice that can be achieved through government efforts, due to the selfishness of man, and that that boundary is a lot lower than most people think. The greatest increases in the standards of living come through technology, and the system that most rapidly advances technology is capitalism. Capitalism is also the most resilient economic system.

I don't envy successful businessmen, or think that they are "exploiting" me. I want to be like them, and I work hard to make myself successful. It's going to be a long journey if I am successful, but even if I am not, I chose this for myself, and I'd rather fail honestly than steal and succeed.

I inform myself about the products I need and about the dangers of certain activities. I don't expect others to provide for me, and I refuse any government assistance, though at my current economic status, I'm definitely eligible for it. This isn't to say that I despise all government, but I hate with a passion the notion that it should have a major presence in my financial affairs, or any other affairs of mine, for that matter.

I personally despise the idea that others should be taxed to provide for me, or that I should be taxed to provide for others, unless they are physically incapable of providing for themselves. To me, money is equivalent to a person's time, which is precious, as we are only allotted so much time in our lives. To take someone's money without their agreement is to steal a bit of their life.

I'd rather have freedom than security, opportunity than equality, and liberty rather than safety.

[Dex_Kivuli]

* Dex_Kivuli starts to cry.

Vikarion I think... I think... I love you.

We should both become Caldari, I think... oh wait... we are.

Edit: the trouble with the test is that some of the questions are plainly contradictory. For some of the questions it's hard to be socially liberal on some issues, and yet very free-market in others.

[Casiella]

Out of curiosity: how many of you feel that your location on the map would have changed significantly over the years?

Certainly, at one time, I would have been more or less with Dex, perhaps even a little higher up ('north'). But my outlook has changed over the years, and I don't doubt it will continue to do so as life experiences inform what passes for 'wisdom' in my head.

Do any of you feel like that's already happened to you?