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Author Topic: How to address a Federation citizen.  (Read 2962 times)

gallentegirl

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How to address a Federation citizen.
« on: 02 May 2011, 15:59 »

  I keep seeing wierd abbreviations used in Gallente RP, it seems like it's based on French, so I figured I'd post this little chart of forms of address in French to help.

M. = Monsieur : Sir / plural: MM. = Messieurs
Mme = Madame : Madam / plural: Mmes = Mesdames
Mlle = Mademoiselle : Miss / plural: Mlles = Mesdemoiselles

Hope this helps, hasn't been posted before and I hope this is the right place on the forums.  If not then just beat me with the noob stick... though I'll probably like it.
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #1 on: 02 May 2011, 16:02 »

Speaking only for myself (well, ICly anyway), I call everyone "Pilot <Surname>" until I'm comfortable enough to use their first names or a nickname. I know that the Gallente RP community seems to favor the "space French" concept, but I personally prefer not to be so explicit about it. Also, since my character (Iurnan Mileghere) is a Gallente citizen raised in part by his Minmatar immigrant mother, it makes sense to me that he might have slightly different mannerisms than others.
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Kaleigh Doyle

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #2 on: 02 May 2011, 16:18 »

I never used those when speaking to others. I always assume it is generally used by haughty luminaire types that are conscious of their status.
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2011, 16:21 »

if you're a rude caldari, address them as "Oppressor"

if you're a rude minmatar, address them as "Meddler"

if you're a rude amarr, address them as "Deviant"
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2011, 16:23 »

I think using the French language adds an interesting twist to a futuristic, hi-tech society based around democracy, corporations and automation (or whatever). People go "surrendermonkeys" as a reaction to French, but the Gallente are far from that.

It gives me an idea however. How about making a Gallentean language based off of Western European languages? There could be more than one. And using the NPC and ship names, there are a few foundations to go from. The Gallentean fighter "Firbolg" is Celtic. I don't know if it would appear alien enough to appear attractive though, unlike Intaki or Caldari, or maybe just because I'm not a linguist.

For example, instead of just using Monsieur, and the abbreviation, create something similar but not so explicit. I literally have no idea what to type in its replacement. Monseer? :S

The RP community is adamant about saying "it's the future, lots have changed since their original routes" but are happy to do the Gallente=French thing. Consider France now, then consider France in 8000 when they settled...they are going to include...

French, British, German, Dutch, Danes, Belgians, Italians, Swiss.......

Seriously, it's not like "French are French". Pulling out British influences is hardly going to be a stretch.
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2011, 16:27 »

I'm certainly not downplaying anyone who wants to treat the Gallente as "space French", though personally I think that (just like a lot of other things) danger lies in oversimplification. As Silver frequently and correctly notes, "it's a big cluster".

And my personal avoidance doesn't have anything to do with the unfortunate characterization of the real French as "cheese-eating surrender monkeys", a stereotype to which I don't subscribe. I just like a slightly different texture, so to speak, and I also assume that the language translators should cover all those sorts of things for me.
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #6 on: 02 May 2011, 16:47 »

When RPing my Gallente characters I generally use the above honourifics.

Mammal, however, just refers to everyone by their first name.
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Hamish Grayson

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2011, 16:55 »

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2011, 17:01 »

It's worth noting that in the modern day, there are 17 million people of French origin living in the United States, 7 million in Argentina and 6 million in the UK. Likely overanalyzing it, when CCP first made it, I'm pretty sure they meant "French" adamantly, but there's no reason to not bend it.

Making a Gallentean language though, it would be so close to a Latin-based language of today that it might be pointless wasting the effort on it.

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Kaleigh Doyle

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #10 on: 02 May 2011, 17:18 »

Personally I'd be more interested in seeing differences in social customs of cultures rather than language.
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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2011, 17:32 »

/thread

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I don't use these much on Morwen, to be honest - though the usual exception is when she wants to be snarky towards those "haughty luminaire types that are conscious of their status" as Kaleigh put it. Or when she's attempting to at least appear polite to those she views as being those same types. (Sorry Ammentio! :oops:)
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gallentegirl

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2011, 17:53 »

if you're a rude caldari, address them as "Oppressor"

if you're a rude minmatar, address them as "Meddler"

if you're a rude amarr, address them as "Deviant"
 :)

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #13 on: 02 May 2011, 23:50 »

On makeshift Romance languages, there's always the western conlangs / international auxiliary languages, most notably Interlingua and Ido (possibly Esperanto, which is very near to Ido - Occidental/Interlingue would be the hipster choice).

Interlingua
...in Interlingua
Occidental

(Admitted, Interlingua's use of senior/seniora for "mister" and "missus" isn't exactly French-sounding.)
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Lyn Farel

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Re: How to address a Federation citizen.
« Reply #14 on: 03 May 2011, 03:52 »

Keeping to honorific titles like monsieur/madame/mademoiselle is quite fine for me, much like the amarrians have sir/lord, caldari have haan/haani, etc.
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