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[Valdezi]

I'll offer an ILF perspective if I may.

As far as my character and the ILF is concerned, the conflict between I-RED and W-BR et. al. is basically a civil conflict in the State, already. I agree with Dex that there's an extent to which it is currently somewhat of a 'cold civil war' and the fighting is less overt, particularly between LDIS and I-RED who have been publically civil to each other, but there's a sense of scheming behind the scenes. (Props to Dex's RP here, I think it's tops)

I was around for the Moira war and the justfications for that war were probably more well-founded than the current business. There is little doubt that Damar Rocarion (through Yuri, his alt) was attacking Federal ships with Travis Immortalis who were trying to stop Damar from plexing basically allowing the Caldari to capture Intaki.

The great irony of Moira's wardec at the time, (and this has been covered in great detail) is the guilty parties had been booted by the time Moira wardecced us. But obviously a lot has happened since then.

This time around, from our perspective, things had been bubbling for a while. Much earlier, when Damar started re-plexing in Intaki we asked him nicely to stop. He pretty much said no way, never.

We deployed a Carrier to help repair I-RED's Intaki tower and it seems that Hell's Revenge (who were actually Inglorious Basterds at the time) took umbrage to that and ganked our hulk.

Saxon then took the action that he has, setting the bulk of the Cal militia KOS and the rest is more or less a matter of public record.

There seems to be a lot of people who take the RP in this area fairly personally, it seems, which is interesting.

[Alain Colcer]

There seems to be a lot of people who take the RP in this area fairly personally, it seems, which is interesting.

I can tell you that Damar in particular is a difficult guy to talk to ingame. He is certainly way too involved in the whole plexing/capture in the name of the State.


From where i sit, a general QCATS perspective, I-RED fighting other caldari militia is an amusing outcome, specially given our short "friendly status" in the past.  Said agreement was of course originally intended to be short-lived, but tactically important.

Thats why most of the time we don't shoot I-RED at all in low-sec, we understand you guys are not there to cause trouble or be a pain in the ass.....you are just doing business and business is good for everyone (at least as long there is no political meaning to said business).

As to ILF, we don't have a clear view, ILFs accusation of us/them behaving as pirates is kinda laughable. You see, most of our pilots are already outlaws or quite naughty (-4.5 sec rating for example), most of that comes from the idea we operate as privateers within the warzone and we will engage hostile or potentially hostile targets. The horrors of war really, as i bet there are many Real-life military men in warzones that have to distrust those bystanders who walk around.

Either way, ILF is on the "lets wait and observe" type in the list of organizations who hang out in the area. Not because you are going to somehow become terrorists or troublemakers, but more ouf of the idea that you are not taking sides except your own, and therefore you could swing to either side (Fedo or squid) in the current conflict to further those goals.


Either way im in the process of bringing an idea that will create some interaction between ILF on I-RED on QCATS soon.....stay tuned

[Valdezi]

I can tell you that Damar in particular is a difficult guy to talk to ingame. He is certainly way too involved in the whole plexing/capture in the name of the State.

I've noticed that. I can't ever tell if Damar is rping or not.

Either way, ILF is on the "lets wait and observe" type in the list of organizations who hang out in the area. Not because you are going to somehow become terrorists or troublemakers, but more ouf of the idea that you are not taking sides except your own, and therefore you could swing to either side (Fedo or squid) in the current conflict to further those goals.


Either way im in the process of bringing an idea that will create some interaction between ILF on I-RED on QCATS soon.....stay tuned

This is actually a pretty accurate summary of our position.

[Orthic]

I am actually quite pleasantly surprised that I-RED has survived the last while, between the war with wolfsbrigade, a bunch of directors quitting, and all the other associated mess. Then again, an alliance like I-RED isn't going to fall apart overnight, but I certainly didn't expect it to still be this strong. It helps that I no longer have any personal involvement in the conflict and I can be complimentary

tbh, going after piracy in almost any militia is a fools errand damn near impossible, as each militia has fairly strong corps that at a minimum run NBSI and quite often are happy to go after obvious non-combatants. I recall there being a bit of hubbub when the Sansha events were going on in that part of lowsec over q-cats attacking people trying to fight the Sansha, saying they were happy that caldari worlds were being attacked, etc. Outside of the few that try very very hard to stay NRDS, they're pretty much all NBSI and many of them will shoot anything that moves - they're not in the militia for RP or anything, they're there for the constant pew pew.

The political situation in Placid and particularly around Intaki is probably one of the most interesting to watch right now, and I wish that we (the serps) were still out there and active, but a rather long inactive spell hurt our corp and it seemed silly for me to stay out in Intaki alone when my main industrial base is in Amarr hisec and I needed to be making iskies.

Hopefully sometime we'll be able to return and get back to selling boosters and playing with the market. With the Gallente, Caldari, ILF and I-RED all focused there, I think we could have a ton of fun.

[John Revenent]

Thanks for the input. Good to know the general idea of the conflict is on track. I will say even with the W-BR war hitting our softer members we never lost one of our main directors to the war, and RDC has grown stronger because of it. Going after piracy is a impossible task but it makes for good RP, something that has proven to stir the pot essentially getting more people into Caldari/Gallente RP. If it means I have to lose a ship every day I think its a good trade off .

Next few weeks should prove to be interesting. Also we are open to player made story arcs involving the Caldari anytime so I am interested in seeing what Bruno has in mind.