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[Zuzanna Alondra]

I just found out this thread is still going and not locked - if you haven't piped up on the thread, even if it's just a /signed; please do.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1244002

[Mitara Newelle]

.... And let us enslave others

It would be fun to have ships require X number of crew, and we pilots could fill them with whatever 'types' of people we wanted: {empire} citizen, slave, freed slave, etc.  A percentage would drop in wrecks and we could take them back to a station or something and have them 'returned home', freed, enslaved, or perhaps even executed with some minor standings changes and/or public record of what the pilot has done with the people.

/ramblings.

[Ghost Hunter]

Overall, I like the idea a lot and I think it's weird its not in the game.

My sole concern is how much it will screw with the Sansha method of enslavement because of how total it is.

[Arvo Katsuya]

Overall, I like the idea a lot and I think it's weird its not in the game.

My sole concern is how much it will screw with the Sansha method of enslavement because of how total it is.

What do you mean by that?

[Shalee Lianne]

I love that idea Mitara.  V. interesting.

I think it'd be pretty neat if the crew members could somehow give a boost to your ship.

[Ghost Hunter]

Overall, I like the idea a lot and I think it's weird its not in the game.

My sole concern is how much it will screw with the Sansha method of enslavement because of how total it is.

What do you mean by that?

The fundamental of the True Slave technology is the complete and total enslavement of the person, body and mind. It has since evolved to become much more, but that basis is still there. It achieves this function in its invasive properties to the brain, as well as the presumed mental indoctrination/adjustment being apart of the Sansha network entails.

To be able to simply "right click -> liberate" a Sansha slave throws the entire process out the window. Sansha slaves are notorious for being unsaveable, or requiring such a vast amount of resources to 'bring them back' that it's just not economical on a planetary scale. You have to contend with not only the extreme physical modifications of the individual, but the mental adjustment they underwent being apart of something so 'transhuman' in nature.

I actually doubt if its possible for a deimplanted Sansha to ever adjust to a normal life. I will have to check the Burning Life, but I'm fairly certain the Sansha operative in there remarks on this exact subject. Will edit with it in a bit.

Edit; here it is. "No, it's...it's not even hard to get the old ones back. I don't know if it's proof of humanity's darker nature or what, but we agents always come back to Nation eventually."

[Zuzanna Alondra]

Don't forget to post in the thread though?

Yeah, Sansha slaves mess with things.

[Ghost Hunter]

Don't forget to post in the thread though?

Yeah, Sansha slaves mess with things.

I did my part in the post there, I think.

I'm probably being stingy about the whole True Slave distinction, but it is something important I think that should be addressed with the entire idea.

[Mathra Hiede]

Ghost - As I currently understand the slaves that are in the game are Amarrian style standard human slaves, who to liberate via the "R-click" or whatever idea might be fine.

As for "Sansha Slaves" you could create a new item class that requires a PI style thing where you import them onto a "reformation facility" and run through a cycle (say a couple of hundred at a time) and after a set time period you get freed slaves?

Could even do that style of thing for creating slaves/freeing slaves - my 0.2 ISK worth

[Kaito Haakkainen]

If there's an option to convert people (living or dead) into high-grade biomass we might finally see the capsuleers get in on the cloning business and truly cut that umbilical.

Harvesting implants from capsuleer corpses, special crew-members, and certain True-Slaves could be introduced along with this.

Added options could be to install a batch of people into a facility and have them indoctrinated to a faction, enslaved, freed from slavery and retrained, press-ganged into crew, transferred to the authorities, etc

[Saede Riordan]

posted in thread.

[Zuzanna Alondra]

If there's an option to convert people (living or dead) into high-grade biomass we might finally see the capsuleers get in on the cloning business and truly cut that umbilical.

Wow - now that's interesting.  Make us get our own biomass for our clones or get a real game over...

[Casiella]

Or maybe you just get the default clone quality (900k SP) unless you provide higher-grade biomass.

[Mathra Hiede]

Or maybe you just get the default clone quality (900k SP) unless you provide higher-grade biomass.

...with the option to "buy higher grade biomass" or "supply your own" so those stupidly high SP players could potentially have a way to get nice clones and not fork out 50m per clone

Nice idea.

[Silver Night]

Or maybe you just get the default clone quality (900k SP) unless you provide higher-grade biomass.

...with the option to "buy higher grade biomass" or "supply your own" so those stupidly high SP players could potentially have a way to get nice clones and not fork out 50m per clone

Nice idea.

True story. A few poddings and I'll be in the poor house.