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Silver Night

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Re: It's been 4 years.
« Reply #120 on: 29 Aug 2014, 02:56 »

It's very early in the morning, so forgive me if this is a bit disjointed:

I try to be polite and post in a restrained way. I know that that can come off as passive-aggressive - and I suppose in the sense that I am certainly sometimes frustrated or annoyed or angry and try to remove that from my reaction or posts, perhaps it is. Certainly I am sometimes passive when I wish I could be aggressive. More emotive posting, while satisfying (see my final post on Chatsubo, for example) are for me the opposite of useful for moderation. I take the role of moderator here seriously, and I think I would be doing the job a disservice if I didn't try to keep an impartial view and maintain as much objectivity as possible. I'm interested in maintaining this forum as a place people can talk about Eve things - and that is more important to me than getting caught up in whatever my personal feelings are on some subject, poster, etc. I'm sorry that your opinion of me is so negative. While your lack of consideration for the rules here has been a problem for me as a mod here, I always liked and respected you as a fellow player. I've enjoyed those occasions we interacted in-game.

I don't think moderation here has been perfect, and I doubt it ever will be perfect. I think that the mod team has done they best that they can, as honestly as they can, which in a community as old and interconnected as Eve RP can be a challenge. I'm sure we sometimes go too far, or not far enough. Sometimes we let discussion get in the way of taking action, or take action too hastily. No doubt we will again in the future. It's the nature of the thing. I can only hope that we continue to do our best.

I think threads like this, now and then, help us calibrate things a bit. Certainly I think this section has been simultaneously one of the biggest pains and one of the most valuable parts of the board from a moderation standpoint. Both the good and bad feedback tells us something about how we are doing our job.

 One recurring theme we see when people are upset about moderation is the idea that it doesn't matter how you say a thing, so long as the core information is the same. That's not really the case, words have power (particularly in a medium where they are the sole avenue of expression) and people use specific words to say the 'same' thing for a reason. I'm not talking about using profanity here, either. While it has a lot of potential to cause problems, it isn't a problem in and of itself.


Last thing, I would encourage everyone to read the Mission Statement, Rules, and FAQ. I've put that in moderation posts often enough, but seriously. If you haven't, or haven't lately. It's something that I frequently refer to when deciding on how to moderate. I think it can tell you more about the idea of what Backstage is than most anything else.

Arista Shahni

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Re: It's been 4 years.
« Reply #121 on: 29 Aug 2014, 08:55 »

I'll give you some Advice Silver: courtesy of my mother, ok?

"A man will only flip out and call you a cunt if he can't manage to fuck you."

My mother is a wellspring of wisdom.

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Re: It's been 4 years.
« Reply #122 on: 06 Sep 2014, 06:50 »

I thought that the ruleset here might stifle discussion too much, born as it was as a reaction to the less rigorous rules of Chatsubo. Perhaps it has stifled discussion, but the decline of Eve itself, and particularly the RP niche, has done more to put a dampener on things. It was rough at times, but I do miss the cut and thrust of the arguments that were had on Chatsubo.

What this place really needs more than anything else is more active contributors.

Perhaps a way forward is to acknowledge that Eve is entering its twilight years now, and consider the games that might be potential successors and try to embrace them. For example, I'm betting a fair few old Eve players will be poking around in Elite Dangerous, which has plenty of sandbox PvP scope it seems.
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Arista Shahni

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Re: It's been 4 years.
« Reply #123 on: 06 Sep 2014, 09:01 »

I had another random thought..

The slowing of EVE RP could also be considered a measure of 'stability' as opposed to 'decline'.  After all, the "adventure" ends eventually and it becomes day to day.  With "new" people I could RP quite a bit - characters my char has known for years its much like a RL "hey whats up / not much / not much here either" synonym.

For me this isnt bad or dull.  We don't need to be consistently living in EVETV's Real World! House where as producer grabs people of opposing factions and tapes them living in a house every season. ;)  I remember once there was sme long drawn out argument on IGS once, and (did I mention this already?) Ava sighed and wen, "Screw it guys, lets drink and have a barbecue" which led to the oddest collection of people in the same location being rather civil and .. in a strange and beautiful way, *human*, which with all the random black and forth verbal sword play of IGs and summit talk not beingincluded in this - though it started as a little .. nervous is the wrong word -- stiff maybe, strange?  -- what developed that RP-evening was a level of humanity not often seen in capsuleers (that didn't involve love or porn.  YES, TWO WOMEN HAD COVERSATIONS THAT PASSED THAT WHATEVER TEST!!)

But at the same time we have to remember, new people DO come in.  And maybe as jaded as our characters might be, hey, flick a little ember bck into the ashes of their interest oft the world for these people's sakes.  This way they  get to have some fun as well. :)

And s for thr backstage aspect... as much as it may look like sheer snarky DUMPAGE is happening on the idea of amarrian dinosaurs  as the first (and hilariously  interesting example that comes to mine)... I have this .. sneaky suspicion.. actual thought is going into it as well that just isn't leaking through the generic bitter as we're crystallized into this decade of lore.   

Cause hey, why not? ;)  There's always got to be at least ONE weird planet SOMEWHERE.  and that sort of idea is intruguing.  I have undefined 'homeworlds' described in some of Ari's stories that have freaky weather patterns, deadly dangerous oceans, etc.  Though we cant exactly make sweepingcvhanges .. lets say.. *anymore* in the sense of a generalized copncept ideal, there is room for quirky fine tuning *everywhere* still, in every faction.
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Re: It's been 4 years.
« Reply #124 on: 19 Sep 2014, 15:23 »

My post is not on topic, I have not read most of these posts, I just saw that Jade had posted in here though and wanted to say -

My sec status is still negative from our fighting you in the Amarr/Minnie warzone.  Goddamnit.
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