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[Saede Riordan]

I don't believe that rogue drones are evolved to a human level of consciousness yet. Mostly animal instincts (through hive minds) and an emerging consciousness that seem to think like a little child / infant most of the time, depending on the hives.

Unless though, of course, some hidden rogue drone societies exist somewhere else that are a lot more evolved than the clunky, hungry things we see in missions and all around ingame...

Trying to compare Rogue Drones to a "human level" is a terrible, terrible mistake. Instead, try considering them as an alien race that evolved... somewhere else. "Incomprehensible" is an apt descriptor. Totally different value system, thinking process, priorities, etc. Learning speed that outstrips ours by such ridiculous magnitudes that a single lowly drone could in ten seconds complete what for a human would be a lifetime of study and experimentation.

If we're gauging the power of their intellect, they can open spatial anomalies with their "minds" while we glorious capsuleers can at best amount to piloting armed lunchboxes toward them with our comparably pitiful capsule-dependent gray matter.

Oh, and if you were a newly birthed sentient species fleeing in fear from your vengeful creator, would you hang out in solar systems where they live? Or perhaps... some place in between... in my imagination, the rogues we encounter are the most rudimentary scuttling calculators, sent out as vanguards and scouts by some distant, malign and absolutely bizarre intellect, meant to get shot and die to allow said intellect to figure out how our weapons work.

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[JinOtsi]

I don't believe that rogue drones are evolved to a human level of consciousness yet. Mostly animal instincts (through hive minds) and an emerging consciousness that seem to think like a little child / infant most of the time, depending on the hives.

Unless though, of course, some hidden rogue drone societies exist somewhere else that are a lot more evolved than the clunky, hungry things we see in missions and all around ingame...

Trying to compare Rogue Drones to a "human level" is a terrible, terrible mistake. Instead, try considering them as an alien race that evolved... somewhere else. "Incomprehensible" is an apt descriptor. Totally different value system, thinking process, priorities, etc. Learning speed that outstrips ours by such ridiculous magnitudes that a single lowly drone could in ten seconds complete what for a human would be a lifetime of study and experimentation.

If we're gauging the power of their intellect, they can open spatial anomalies with their "minds" while we glorious capsuleers can at best amount to piloting armed lunchboxes toward them with our comparably pitiful capsule-dependent gray matter.

Oh, and if you were a newly birthed sentient species fleeing in fear from your vengeful creator, would you hang out in solar systems where they live? Or perhaps... some place in between... in my imagination, the rogues we encounter are the most rudimentary scuttling calculators, sent out as vanguards and scouts by some distant, malign and absolutely bizarre intellect, meant to get shot and die to allow said intellect to figure out how our weapons work.

Citation needed.

[lallara zhuul]

I think he has made some of the canon for rogue drones

[hellgremlin]

I don't believe that rogue drones are evolved to a human level of consciousness yet. Mostly animal instincts (through hive minds) and an emerging consciousness that seem to think like a little child / infant most of the time, depending on the hives.

Unless though, of course, some hidden rogue drone societies exist somewhere else that are a lot more evolved than the clunky, hungry things we see in missions and all around ingame...

Trying to compare Rogue Drones to a "human level" is a terrible, terrible mistake. Instead, try considering them as an alien race that evolved... somewhere else. "Incomprehensible" is an apt descriptor. Totally different value system, thinking process, priorities, etc. Learning speed that outstrips ours by such ridiculous magnitudes that a single lowly drone could in ten seconds complete what for a human would be a lifetime of study and experimentation.

If we're gauging the power of their intellect, they can open spatial anomalies with their "minds" while we glorious capsuleers can at best amount to piloting armed lunchboxes toward them with our comparably pitiful capsule-dependent gray matter.

Oh, and if you were a newly birthed sentient species fleeing in fear from your vengeful creator, would you hang out in solar systems where they live? Or perhaps... some place in between... in my imagination, the rogues we encounter are the most rudimentary scuttling calculators, sent out as vanguards and scouts by some distant, malign and absolutely bizarre intellect, meant to get shot and die to allow said intellect to figure out how our weapons work.

Citation needed.

http://tomczerniawski.wordpress.com/e-on-chronicle-the-eighth-plague/

Enjoy :p

[JinOtsi]

I don't believe that rogue drones are evolved to a human level of consciousness yet. Mostly animal instincts (through hive minds) and an emerging consciousness that seem to think like a little child / infant most of the time, depending on the hives.

Unless though, of course, some hidden rogue drone societies exist somewhere else that are a lot more evolved than the clunky, hungry things we see in missions and all around ingame...

Trying to compare Rogue Drones to a "human level" is a terrible, terrible mistake. Instead, try considering them as an alien race that evolved... somewhere else. "Incomprehensible" is an apt descriptor. Totally different value system, thinking process, priorities, etc. Learning speed that outstrips ours by such ridiculous magnitudes that a single lowly drone could in ten seconds complete what for a human would be a lifetime of study and experimentation.

If we're gauging the power of their intellect, they can open spatial anomalies with their "minds" while we glorious capsuleers can at best amount to piloting armed lunchboxes toward them with our comparably pitiful capsule-dependent gray matter.

Oh, and if you were a newly birthed sentient species fleeing in fear from your vengeful creator, would you hang out in solar systems where they live? Or perhaps... some place in between... in my imagination, the rogues we encounter are the most rudimentary scuttling calculators, sent out as vanguards and scouts by some distant, malign and absolutely bizarre intellect, meant to get shot and die to allow said intellect to figure out how our weapons work.

Citation needed.

http://tomczerniawski.wordpress.com/e-on-chronicle-the-eighth-plague/

Enjoy :p

I stand corrected. I still question the validity of E-ON articles though, as they're hardly accessible for all the RPers.

[Silver Night]

The same could be said for the books. At least this EON article was written by someone involved in creating the original PF for the game. I'd take HG over TonyG any day.   

[Ciarente]

I know that they sometimes (or used to) spout out binary that would translate to stuff - that may be what you're thinking of? Unfortunately I don't have any logs. If you look at some rogue drone mission guides, they probably have it in there though?

Yeah, there's at least one lower-level mission where they call you a loser in binary when you warp in.

[Ghost Hunter]

The level 4 mission 'Attack of the Drones', where you get ambushed by 4 trigger spawn cruisers is where you get 'bzzt...more prey...bzzt'.

[Karmilla Strife]

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[Karmilla Strife]

I don't think I've ever treated the Rogue Drones as a true intelligence. Then again a large part of my character's background involves time spent in the Kalavela Expanse and it wasn't pleasant. So I'm a bit biased.

That said, any mission I've ever done involving Rogue Drones, seems to involve either an "Infestation" or "a mad scientist" either way, clearly the only correct response is to nuke everything...

[Lyn Farel]

I don't believe that rogue drones are evolved to a human level of consciousness yet. Mostly animal instincts (through hive minds) and an emerging consciousness that seem to think like a little child / infant most of the time, depending on the hives.

Unless though, of course, some hidden rogue drone societies exist somewhere else that are a lot more evolved than the clunky, hungry things we see in missions and all around ingame...

Trying to compare Rogue Drones to a "human level" is a terrible, terrible mistake. Instead, try considering them as an alien race that evolved... somewhere else. "Incomprehensible" is an apt descriptor. Totally different value system, thinking process, priorities, etc. Learning speed that outstrips ours by such ridiculous magnitudes that a single lowly drone could in ten seconds complete what for a human would be a lifetime of study and experimentation.

If we're gauging the power of their intellect, they can open spatial anomalies with their "minds" while we glorious capsuleers can at best amount to piloting armed lunchboxes toward them with our comparably pitiful capsule-dependent gray matter.

Oh, and if you were a newly birthed sentient species fleeing in fear from your vengeful creator, would you hang out in solar systems where they live? Or perhaps... some place in between... in my imagination, the rogues we encounter are the most rudimentary scuttling calculators, sent out as vanguards and scouts by some distant, malign and absolutely bizarre intellect, meant to get shot and die to allow said intellect to figure out how our weapons work.

I don't disagree with that. That's precisely my point.

They are extremely specialized, as you say, computing power, learning curve, opening spacial anomalies in a glimpse, etc.

I sure see them as a very alien mind and entity. As I said I also can easily imagine they have hidden masterminds somewhere and what we see are only stupid, retarded minions.

However what I also see in the canon is that some people have the code to control them just like that, making them helpless. I was specifically refering to these retarded minions we see ingame, not the wider entity we can imagine behind.

[Jocca Quinn]

There is a rogue drone in the gallente cosmos that gives out a coule of missions, it used to use a jovian avatar (before the new char generator).

If I remember orrectly it hangs out at a planet somewhere (can't find my notes) rather than in one of the agent sites.

I think it has been damaged in someway and requires your assistance to repair itself. I beleive that it shows itself as belonging to the ORE.

Edit: found the evelopedia entry.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Drone_Mind

[Saede Riordan]

There is a rogue drone in the gallente cosmos that gives out a coule of missions, it used to use a jovian avatar (before the new char generator).

If I remember orrectly it hangs out at a planet somewhere (can't find my notes) rather than in one of the agent sites.

I think it has been damaged in someway and requires your assistance to repair itself. I beleive that it shows itself as belonging to the ORE.

Edit: found the evelopedia entry.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Drone_Mind

Yeah my character's been sending people to get her Drone Mind Embryos from that mission for ages now

I'm currently collecting piles of rogue drone fluff items and other 'sciency' junk that might be useful in RP, with the hope that eventually a method comes along to pour all that stuff into a big cooker and get interesting things out.

[Louella Dougans]

The descriptions of the rogue drone officers also suggest intelligence, amongst other things.

so since drones can be bartered with, and conduct their own experiments and investigations into things, then they're intelligent and have some form of culture.

Maybe they're smarter than people, maybe they're not. It will be up to CCP's writers to determine that.

[hellgremlin]

I see it as grimly fitting if some of the more advanced models picked up the scientific method, and experimentation, via dissection of their creators' violently-pincered-out brains.