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Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« on: 09 Mar 2012, 06:41 »

Okay guys, a quick 'warning' as it were. I'll keep spoilers away for a few weeks yet, but if you don't have access to your ME1/ME2 savegames you should really download some from elsewhere to get the specifics you want. The standard "New Game" options in ME3 are fairly... well, I'm frankly not impressed at all. If I hadn't lost all the savegames before (and ME2 is now for some unknown reason crashing on Illium) I wouldn't have found this out, but just in case some of you are in the same boat...

Go download saves.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #1 on: 09 Mar 2012, 10:08 »

And yet they say "You should play it once first unsaved to see the differences to your own story!"

How about I play a story I'm familiar with?  :bash:
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« Reply #2 on: 09 Mar 2012, 11:32 »

Yeah, that's the main issue. You're not told/shown what this Shepard's previous choices were until you're facing the consequence of it, which is a pain in the ass. Having to go "Oh so THAT was the choice made..." after some ME3 event is freakin' weird when I should be fairly intimately aware of what the fuck Shepard had done.

So yeah, play through the games for savegames, or download savegames with the choices you prefer.
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« Reply #3 on: 09 Mar 2012, 12:15 »

On a game note... damn they're good at this. Garrus is amazing, EDI is awesome, Joker is superb and so on and so forth. The characters are just so well done. I can't help but smile at the friendship between Garrus and Shepard (depending on actions/conversations I guess) for instance. There's also those conversations between other people you pass and those little snippets of their lives in a galaxy where the Reapers are ravaging whatever they can get their C'thulhuesque claws on.

This game is definitely a worthy... err.. threequel? I have no idea what the name is for the third installment of a trilogy.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #4 on: 09 Mar 2012, 12:19 »

Currently still working on Mass Effect 2 and the ongoing log for the whole adventure up until Mass Effect 3. Might include the progress of Mass Effect 3 as well, *IF* I manage to take breaks in between missions etc. to update the log on what's been done.

Though mostly these last few days I've been side-tracked playing multi-player quite allot, so progress is slow.

And no, none of you fuckers dare spoil me before I do ME3 myself with my own toon going through the effects of the choices made earlier. Spoiler tag is mandatory, obviously, if you want to talk about anything related to ME3's single-player.
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« Reply #5 on: 09 Mar 2012, 13:08 »

I had the time to try yersterday the prologue and the first mission (spoil : on Mars). The difference with the 2 other titles struck me. It was more mature and subtle, more intense atmosphere, less rubbish (ala hollywood, even if it is half wanted in that universe, it was sometimes a little too cheesy to my taste in the previous titles, especially ME2). A great, great opening, like in ME2. I just hope it does not turn less appealing like it was after the beginning in ME2, actually.

On the gameplay side, it is definitly a lot closer to ME2 than ME1. It is basically the very simple and working system used in ME2, but more complex and rich with improvements sometimes taken out of ME1. Skills are less minimalistic, weapons too (with something between the obnoxious ME1 inventory and the very flat ME2 inventory), and the cover system has been "improved" to something closer to Deus Ex 3 (with the possibility to jump between covers, etc), which makes the game a little harder to master btw. The AI, too, has gone under a lot of improvements. It behaves more like in DE 3, trying to catch you behind, moving behind their covers, throwing grenades at you to put you out of cover, etc. Also, when I saw the same difficulty options like in ME2 (easy, normal, veteran, hardcore and insane) I was like "ok, lets take hardcore directly, even veteran was too damn easy in ME2 and hardcore was quite enjoyable and not very difficult". Actually, it is a lot harder now. Not that enemies are especially lethal (though importing my old saves made me lvl 30 so maybe there is a little of this...), but they take AGES to take down. I mean, I am always emptying all my ammo before taking them down and sometimes have to go in melee to finish them off. It is funny but a little too much tough to my taste (1 or 2 rounds of ammo for a single NPC is... quite a lot). I am thinking to downgrade to veteran difficulty to try.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #6 on: 09 Mar 2012, 13:32 »

I had the time to try yersterday the prologue and the first mission (spoil : on Mars). The difference with the 2 other titles struck me. It was more mature and subtle, more intense atmosphere, less rubbish (ala hollywood, even if it is half wanted in that universe, it was sometimes a little too cheesy to my taste in the previous titles, especially ME2). A great, great opening, like in ME2. I just hope it does not turn less appealing like it was after the beginning in ME2, actually.

On the gameplay side, it is definitly a lot closer to ME2 than ME1. It is basically the very simple and working system used in ME2, but more complex and rich with improvements sometimes taken out of ME1. Skills are less minimalistic, weapons too (with something between the obnoxious ME1 inventory and the very flat ME2 inventory), and the cover system has been "improved" to something closer to Deus Ex 3 (with the possibility to jump between covers, etc), which makes the game a little harder to master btw. The AI, too, has gone under a lot of improvements. It behaves more like in DE 3, trying to catch you behind, moving behind their covers, throwing grenades at you to put you out of cover, etc. Also, when I saw the same difficulty options like in ME2 (easy, normal, veteran, hardcore and insane) I was like "ok, lets take hardcore directly, even veteran was too damn easy in ME2 and hardcore was quite enjoyable and not very difficult". Actually, it is a lot harder now. Not that enemies are especially lethal (though importing my old saves made me lvl 30 so maybe there is a little of this...), but they take AGES to take down. I mean, I am always emptying all my ammo before taking them down and sometimes have to go in melee to finish them off. It is funny but a little too much tough to my taste (1 or 2 rounds of ammo for a single NPC is... quite a lot). I am thinking to downgrade to veteran difficulty to try.

Someone from Bioware described "Normal" as the "new Veteran" in terms of difficulty, a few weeks back. I'm not sure what difficulty I'm playing on, but it's a decent challenge as it is for a first playthrough.

I'm still working on my journal from ME1/2, and intend to continue it into ME3. (So yes, I've been taking notes.)

Also, we do have spoiler tags if you want to use them. they are <spoiler> and </spoiler>, only with [] instead of <> :3
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #7 on: 09 Mar 2012, 13:56 »

Yes I know, but I did not want to use a spoiler tag for just a word, cutting the sentence in 3...
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« Reply #8 on: 09 Mar 2012, 13:58 »

Yes I know, but I did not want to use a spoiler tag for just a word, cutting the sentence in 3...

Anyone using the darker forum theme will see the text rather clearly as you changed the color of the text. :p
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #9 on: 09 Mar 2012, 14:04 »

Oh THAT was what Lyn was trying to do. Yeah, I wondered a bit what that was about. It's not like it's actually spoiling anything important anyway, so no harm done. Still, spoiler tags are preferable since we don't have any other alternatives that works across themes.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #10 on: 09 Mar 2012, 15:35 »

My outdated beat up technologically irrelevant little laptop is able to run this game.

I'm so proud of it  :cube:

About to start the first mission after the prologue now, having to play a blank slate but hell I'll probably use this weekend just to do multiplayer till my PC returns.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 - SPOILERS INSIDE
« Reply #11 on: 09 Mar 2012, 22:32 »

Well, I beat Mass Effect 3. Now, one of the themes of the ME series seems to be that choices have consequences. For example, my choice to buy Mass Effect 3 has had the consequence of creating an intense feeling of disappointment at the ending(s). I doubt I'll replay it - I completed pretty much everything, and the ending feels both far too short, a bit anti-climactic, and, frankly, I've never really enjoyed [spoiler]my character dying at the end of the game even when I did everything right. Even so, that wouldn't matter as much, if it weren't for a two-minute or so cut-scene to wrap up an entire trilogy of storyline. Seriously, Bioware? Really? :cry:[/spoiler]

I can't believe I played through ME 1 and 2 again just for that.
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« Reply #12 on: 10 Mar 2012, 05:02 »

This deserves a spoiler tag of it's own.

[spoiler]"I'M GARRUS VAKARIAN, AND THIS IS NOW MY FAVOURITE SPOT ON THE CITADEL!"[/spoiler]

#Crowningmomentofawesome
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« Reply #13 on: 10 Mar 2012, 06:55 »

This deserves a spoiler tag of it's own.

[spoiler]"I'M GARRUS VAKARIAN, AND THIS IS NOW MY FAVOURITE SPOT ON THE CITADEL!"[/spoiler]

#Crowningmomentofawesome

[spoiler]So very very very true. There's few games where you've really gotten to see a friendship grow like that.[/spoiler]
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« Reply #14 on: 10 Mar 2012, 07:15 »

Now that I have played it a bit more, I feel again like they just give me shit with their console portages, but this time much more than in the previous MEs : you will know what I mean after having played it a little, ergonomics wise on PC platform, its just terrible. Interfaces and menus are totally inapropriate for PC and definitly the contrary to something that you can grasp easily. It just seems like they just changed the commands behind without even adjustings the graphic effects and all the feedbacks that makes it understandable for PC users. It just feel like they forgot that we have a mouse to play. The way menu feedbacks behave is just full of nonsense. I am especially refering to weapons modifications and equipement, and also the upgrade system. It is nice to have a nice and shiney flash interface using Scaleform, but it would also be nice if they actually hired some specialists in ergonomics.

But maybe thats just me being too perfectionist, having myself had to work on interfaces feedbacks.


[spoiler]On another matter, I am also very sad we did not actually had to go on Palaven, but just on this little moon.  :ugh:

I just hope it will not be the same for the other races motherworlds.[/spoiler]

Yes I know, but I did not want to use a spoiler tag for just a word, cutting the sentence in 3...

Anyone using the darker forum theme will see the text rather clearly as you changed the color of the text. :p

Oh right, I forgot that one...
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