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Author Topic: Templar One [[Spoilers]]  (Read 38996 times)

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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #195 on: 03 Aug 2012, 06:48 »

(Or Téa for that matter. The rest of the damn Retford crew showed up, why not her?)

In the kitchen, making everyone a sandwich obviously (hurrhurr edgy TonyG joke)

I agree though that it was an enjoyable read, despite the acute PF errors (all Mannar on Seyllin I wot). My primary issue was more in personal taste, with how everyone spoke like Hollywood actors and a lot of VERY trivial things were Americanized. The disposition, too. All too Hollywood/Michael Bay. They seemed virtually identical to one another in how they spoke and carried themselves, except that Jamaican Mannar I BE A FOREIGNER MON character. Why he was the only one that sounded "foreign" is beyond me.

But that's just my own taste (I particularly emphasize stuff like body language in my RP for example) so not gonna force that on anyone.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #196 on: 27 Aug 2012, 18:22 »

Spoiler request: what's THANATOS?
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #197 on: 27 Aug 2012, 19:34 »

Spoiler request: what's THANATOS?

From memory, because I don't have my copy with me:
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A sub-unit of CONCORD that's busy keeping an eye on things and trying to make sure that everything proceeds as it should, regardless of the short-sighted politics of the various polities, and particularly the Pod Pilots. Like CONCORD spies and secret police, only telling themselves they're doing it for the good of the cluster, instead of personal power. Of course, without personal power, how can you stop things going to hell?

They dropped an operative into the mess in Amamake in a  drop-ship that was invisible to everything except visible spectrum, who proceeded to wander around kicking the arse of anything it ran into, while at the same time having little actual effect on things.

Of course, my memory might be faulty.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #198 on: 27 Aug 2012, 20:44 »

Spoiler request: what's THANATOS?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThanatosGambit

It... it uh, makes more sense if you read the particular passage...

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Also: She's definitely Russian, possibly a Khanid.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #199 on: 27 Aug 2012, 20:56 »

Also, since it's the sort of thing that keeps coming up about slavery:

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"The obvious implication was that the Elders were winding down their rescue missions in the Amarr Empire. There were still millions of Minmatar slaves in their service, with dozens more added every day as the two empires fought an ugly war of attrition across dozens of colonies in the losec worlds."

I may have got this out of context, since my reading of EVE novels typically involves some blend of jet lag, sleep deprivation and illness, but I don't think I did.

Part of me wants to use this in all sorts of contradictory ways. There's slave-taking in faction war, despite supposed Empire law about that?! It's only dozens a day?! Other parts of me think that the numbers just don't add up and are being used rhetorically, especially only "millions" of Minmatar slaves in the service of the Amarr Empire when we're still told that nearly a third of all Minmatar, the most numerous race of New Eden, are enslaved within the huge Amarr Empire.

But it's one of the passages I think about when deciding how cynically to treat FW.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #200 on: 27 Aug 2012, 21:49 »

Also, since it's the sort of thing that keeps coming up about slavery:

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"The obvious implication was that the Elders were winding down their rescue missions in the Amarr Empire. There were still millions of Minmatar slaves in their service, with dozens more added every day as the two empires fought an ugly war of attrition across dozens of colonies in the losec worlds."

I may have got this out of context, since my reading of EVE novels typically involves some blend of jet lag, sleep deprivation and illness, but I don't think I did.

Part of me wants to use this in all sorts of contradictory ways. There's slave-taking in faction war, despite supposed Empire law about that?! It's only dozens a day?! Other parts of me think that the numbers just don't add up and are being used rhetorically, especially only "millions" of Minmatar slaves in the service of the Amarr Empire when we're still told that nearly a third of all Minmatar, the most numerous race of New Eden, are enslaved within the huge Amarr Empire.

But it's one of the passages I think about when deciding how cynically to treat FW.
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My guess is that it was rhetorical.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #201 on: 27 Aug 2012, 23:09 »

Rhetorical, could refer to the crews of Republic Fleet vessels shot down in Imperial space, could refer to slaves born... I'd not place to much weight on something that vague.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #202 on: 01 Sep 2012, 11:08 »

Rhetorical, could refer to the crews of Republic Fleet vessels shot down in Imperial space, could refer to slaves born... I'd not place to much weight on something that vague.

There is another option.  Did the Empire ever officially recognize the Republic? 

Because if it didnt, as far as the Empire is concerned, there isnt any "Republic" per se, but instead there are rebellious Imperial provinces filled with revolting slaves.  But its still the "Empire", as far as Imperial law, policy and diplomacy is concerned. 

That way the Empire could still say "it is illegal for us to take slaves from outside the Empire!" while still raiding the Republic for slaves. And its a true statement, from the Amarrian world view.
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Re: Templar One [[Spoilers]]
« Reply #203 on: 01 Sep 2012, 12:34 »

Amarr recognised the Republic (unhappily) as part of the formation of CONCORD.
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