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Title: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Halcyon on 17 Jun 2014, 09:53
It was suggested to me that Smaug has chosen a particularly uncomfortable bedding.
I disagree.
The scale of a Firedrake when compared to coins would make them seem as tiny discs compared to his bulk, easily displaced by his great weight in the manner of smooth sand or similar.
In addition the softness of the metal contrasted with the body heat of a fire breathing "reptile" would cause the metal to soften as a result of proximity, further moulding the bedding to his shape.
Thus a dragon's hoard would be akin to a memory foam mattress and possibly one of the most comfortable bedding materials available.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: BloodBird on 17 Jun 2014, 10:33
...what? THIS is topic-worthy material now?

All of my whats :3

More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 17 Jun 2014, 10:37
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Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: kalaratiri on 17 Jun 2014, 10:42
More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.

ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 17 Jun 2014, 12:04
These movies are the perfect example of a studio system mandating three terrible movies with expanded plodding plotlines when a two-part adventure would have worked just fine.

The Hobbit movies suffer from what I like to call 'epic creep.'  Every fucking thing has to be crucially important, epic and world-changing dangerous.  Shoe-horn in extra characters from the original trilogy, add a bunch of new stuff not in the books, etc.

It's a simple story about a hobbit going on an adventure with a bunch of dwarves, and coming home.  Make it a fun adventure about a hobbit going on an adventure with dragons and spiders and a magic ring.  Don't make it have to tie in with the grand lord of the rings trilogy and shoehorn a bunch of nonsense.

I really liked the first trilogy, hating the hobbit 'trilogy' so much.   

Also the 48fps thing makes everyone look like they are on the set of a spanish soap opera with terrible makeup on.

end rant :P
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Desiderya on 17 Jun 2014, 15:46
...what? THIS is topic-worthy material now?

All of my whats :3

More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.

Smaug kills Dumbledore.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 17 Jun 2014, 17:12
I saw the first Hobbit movie and it did seem like they were trying too hard for Epic.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Gottii on 17 Jun 2014, 20:13
The Hobbit movies are to Lord of the Rings what the Prequels are to Star Wars IV-VI.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 17 Jun 2014, 21:32
More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.

ಠ_ಠ

This.  Exactly this.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 17 Jun 2014, 22:04
More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.

ಠ_ಠ

This.  Exactly this.

I am pretty sure the statute of limitations on spoilers for the Hobbit expired long before I was born.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 17 Jun 2014, 23:45
The dragon kills everyone.  Bilbo in LOTR is actually a cavewight passing the ring to Frodo at Sauron's command so that Frodo will bring the ring back to him.  Sauron is a master of 11th dimensional chess.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: PracticalTechnicality on 18 Jun 2014, 02:43
Tibs, the Dragon IS everyone.  And everyone is the dragon.  Why can't we stop hurting one another, and thus ourselves? *tears roll down my finely crafted weta workshop costume as I am escorted out by studio security*
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: BloodBird on 18 Jun 2014, 05:51
More on topic, I guess you got a point, but I'll try to not get to involved in this, as the 3rd movie is not out yet and I want to own all 3 before seeing any of them. Want to avoid spoilers and all that.

ಠ_ಠ

This.  Exactly this.

I am pretty sure the statute of limitations on spoilers for the Hobbit expired long before I was born.

Have I read the Hobbit long ago and know pretty much everything that will happen? Oh yes, I have.

Is it highly likely they will... ahem, make 'liberal' changes to the plot and such? Yeah, I expected that much, and given the comments in this tread, I was right. So. Waiting for the 3rd one. Least the disappointment will only be fresh over a 1-day period as opposed to be revisited on me twice over after the first one, as it was.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 18 Jun 2014, 06:08
That one dude will use the special arrow to kill the dragon using the blatantly mentioned chink in the dragons armor.  The dragon will crash into the city and destroy it.  The dwarves will get their home back and Bilbo will go home (but not really because you can never really go home again).
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 18 Jun 2014, 07:56
That one dude will use the special arrow to kill the dragon using the blatantly mentioned chink in the dragons armor.  The dragon will crash into the city and destroy it.  The dwarves will get their home back and Bilbo will go home (but not really because you can never really go home again).

But what happened to the werebear?
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 18 Jun 2014, 08:01
They will spend half an hour showing a fight between him and a fat goblin, which he will kill and Significantly Influence The Events Of The Battle
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: kalaratiri on 18 Jun 2014, 08:43
That one dude will use the special arrow to kill the dragon using the blatantly mentioned chink in the dragons armor.  The dragon will crash into the city and destroy it.  The dwarves will get their home back and Bilbo will go home (but not really because you can never really go home again).

But what happened to the werebear?

He gets spectacular eyebrows.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Halcyon on 18 Jun 2014, 10:46
...what? THIS is topic-worthy material now?



On the internet, a place where we come to waste our time, there is a defined threshold for what is worthy of being a topic for discussion?
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: BloodBird on 18 Jun 2014, 10:51
...what? THIS is topic-worthy material now?



On the internet, a place where we come to waste our time, there is a defined threshold for what is worthy of being a topic for discussion?

Good point.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Ollie on 18 Jun 2014, 11:04
They will spend half an hour showing a fight between him and a fat goblin, which he will kill and Significantly Influence The Events Of The Battle

There's also a stoner wizard riding a rabbit-drawn sled that travels close to the speed of sound apparently. Don't forget that guy.
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: PracticalTechnicality on 19 Jun 2014, 02:31
They will spend half an hour showing a fight between him and a fat goblin, which he will kill and Significantly Influence The Events Of The Battle

There's also a stoner wizard riding a rabbit-drawn sled that travels close to the speed of sound apparently. Don't forget that guy.

Clearly product placement for Saint Nick.  Even his perfidious capitalist leanings seep into Middle Earth.  "Sauron was Framed 2014!!!".
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Kala on 22 Jun 2014, 04:31
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I saw the first Hobbit movie and it did seem like they were trying too hard for Epic

Yup.  I think that's the crux of the problem - that and there not really being enough material to stretch it into three films comfortably.

I think they were going for a delicate balance of portraying the lighter tone of what is essentially a children's story in The Hobbit, while trying to keep the 'epic' feel of the Lord of the Rings films, to show it as a prequel to that story.

Personally, I think they fell off the barrel. (Though I still enjoyed it).
Title: Re: Smaug's hoard or Draconic memory foam
Post by: Lyn Farel on 22 Jun 2014, 10:46
Personally, I think they fell off the barrel. (Though I still enjoyed it).

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Pretty much.