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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Ava Starfire on 20 Dec 2013, 10:03
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/sebiestor-tribe-selects-acassa-midular-as-new-chief/?_ga=1.170797088.1604492127.1386353892 (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/sebiestor-tribe-selects-acassa-midular-as-new-chief/?_ga=1.170797088.1604492127.1386353892)
Matari political intrigue?!?
Values independence AND tradition?
Wants to Modernize??
Do i smell some unrest between the Tribes, mm?
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The phrase "ABOUT FUCKING TIME YOU FUCKING FUCKS" comes to mind. :|
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The phrase "ABOUT FUCKING TIME YOU FUCKING FUCKS" comes to mind. :|
I wasnt gonna say it.
Im glad you did.
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This is the essence of our love/hate relationship with CCP. They leave us hanging for months, and in the interim make us groan and facedesk repeatedly... but when they do finally advance the story, they do it with just enough teasing hints that we can't help but be mighty interested as to where things are going.
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There are so many little goodies in this announcement. Chief among them, "transitional regime of Sanmatar Maleatu Shakor."
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Don't worry. They'll fuck it up :lol:
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Look at all this potential intrigue that will never happen.
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Yes, I do find you lack of Faith disturbing indeed Pope Vader
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"We finally may have an excuse to nuke them all, for their own best interests." -- Unidentified Amarrian Government Bureaucrat
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Look at all this potential intrigue that will never happen.
So sad. So likely true.
I want intertribal squabbles!
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I want intertribal squabbles!
Please forgive my rudeness but....
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Look at all this potential intrigue that will never happen.
So sad. So likely true.
I want intertribal squabbles!
Would be pretty interesting.
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Don't worry. They'll fuck it up :lol:
This more than likely but, I'll enjoy it while I can.
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We'll probably find she ousts Shakor...
And then turns out to be even more of a Warmongering Tyrant ;)
Sometimes it's better the Devil you know...
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If she somehow does oust Shakor, then it will absolutely spell interesting times for the Republic, and every other major faction. Her sense of independence may cause a greater rift between the Federation and Republic (for good or for worse). Her philosophy of securing safety through superior technology may possibly open up new relations between the State and the Republic. And, of course, that same philosophy may also end up causing effects on the war against the Empire.
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I hope she doesn't. Not because she is not an engaging character but because Midular > Shakor > Midular does not bode well for 'interesting change' in the Minmatar story.
Give all the tribes cool chiefs, give us a Sanmatar who is badass
Just do something that makes me excited to be Matari.
Be a step in the right direction and not just a step!
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I hope she doesn't. Not because she is not an engaging character but because Midular > Shakor > Midular does not bode well for 'interesting change' in the Minmatar story.
Give all the tribes cool chiefs, give us a Sanmatar who is badass
Just do something that makes me excited to be Matari.
Be a step in the right direction and not just a step!
Next Sanmatar should be Krusual, and he will lie, cheat and steal from Amarr for great Matari justice.
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/chief-acassa-midular-sets-out-autonomy-doctrine-at-tribal-assembly/
And so the new chief echoes the words of Ava Starfire and Anabella Rella, along with all Sebiestor!
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
How can you be uninspired by Freedom, Democracy and all that Good Stuff?
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SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
They do ? The elections were nice...
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
They do ? The elections were nice...
And exactly how many years ago was that?
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They put almost no effort in any story these days, this one is not different... It's barely 2 news so far. Call me jaded but we have seen how promising storylines just starting tend to end.
2 or 3 nice news and RP things to keep us fed, then 3 months of nothing. And then a new arc. Which will, like all the other ones, stop after a few news.
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They put almost no effort in any story these days, this one is not different... It's barely 2 news so far. Call me jaded but we have seen how promising storylines just starting tend to end.
2 or 3 nice news and RP things to keep us fed, then 3 months of nothing. And then a new arc. Which will, like all the other ones, stop after a few news.
This will make for Sad Sebbies =(
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
I too would like to see more intriguing stories for the Fed. Less about Minmatar immigrants stealing all the jerbs and Evil Caldari and more science fiction. Here's some possible stories and plots:
- Drone Rights - Should drones be protected from abuse?
- Clone Rights - Should clones be considered the same legal entity as the original, or a new one?
- Purists vs. Modders - Controversy surrounding the rights and 'humanity' of heavily bodymodded people.
- Equal Opportunity Cloning - Should cloning be covered under Federation healthcare? Should it be offered to everyone?
- Syndicate Reconciliation - Should Syndicate be allowed to settle? Should they be annexed into the Fed?
- Serpentis Corruption - How deep do the tendrils of Serpentis reach into the Fed? From homless to President... who is influenced and how?
Despite these great political and philosophical questions to be dug into... all I'm seeing are mirrors of real life news. Minmatar Rights (Immigration Reform), Operation Highlander Leaks (Edward Snowden NSA leaks), and the relatively dull reaction to Colelie.
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Why does Fed politics seem so uninspired compared to this stuff? They actually put in effort to these stories.
I too would like to see more intriguing stories for the Fed. Less about Minmatar immigrants stealing all the jerbs and Evil Caldari and more science fiction. Here's some possible stories and plots:
- Drone Rights - Should drones be protected from abuse?
- Clone Rights - Should clones be considered the same legal entity as the original, or a new one?
- Purists vs. Modders - Controversy surrounding the rights and 'humanity' of heavily bodymodded people.
- Equal Opportunity Cloning - Should cloning be covered under Federation healthcare? Should it be offered to everyone?
- Syndicate Reconciliation - Should Syndicate be allowed to settle? Should they be annexed into the Fed?
- Serpentis Corruption - How deep do the tendrils of Serpentis reach into the Fed? From homless to President... who is influenced and how?
Despite these great political and philosophical questions to be dug into... all I'm seeing are mirrors of real life news. Minmatar Rights (Immigration Reform), Operation Highlander Leaks (Edward Snowden NSA leaks), and the relatively dull reaction to Colelie.
I'd like to see a little civil war action. The Matari tribes turning inward, the Caldari corporate race going cutthroat, the Gallente government suddenly having to keep a lid on armed revolutionaries, and the Amarr Empire's political Holders rebelling against the office of the Empress.
Then we can have some real hisec PVE. It'd be great if you were just out and about and suddenly you get a call that Imperial navies have met Holder militias near your position and everyone is being called to assist.
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Take my money.
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I too would like to see more intriguing stories for the Fed. Less about Minmatar immigrants stealing all the jerbs and Evil Caldari and more science fiction. Here's some possible stories and plots:
- Drone Rights - Should drones be protected from abuse?
- Clone Rights - Should clones be considered the same legal entity as the original, or a new one?
- Purists vs. Modders - Controversy surrounding the rights and 'humanity' of heavily bodymodded people.
- Equal Opportunity Cloning - Should cloning be covered under Federation healthcare? Should it be offered to everyone?
- Syndicate Reconciliation - Should Syndicate be allowed to settle? Should they be annexed into the Fed?
- Serpentis Corruption - How deep do the tendrils of Serpentis reach into the Fed? From homless to President... who is influenced and how?
Despite these great political and philosophical questions to be dug into... all I'm seeing are mirrors of real life news. Minmatar Rights (Immigration Reform), Operation Highlander Leaks (Edward Snowden NSA leaks), and the relatively dull reaction to Colelie.
Science fucking fiction.
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/minmatar-tribal-assembly-closes-after-ratifying-new-political-order/?_ga=1.174239078.596322690.1387589709 (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/minmatar-tribal-assembly-closes-after-ratifying-new-political-order/?_ga=1.174239078.596322690.1387589709)
zomg
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:eek:
Awesome!
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I'm still hoping Shakor will get greedy and go against the tribal council decision to keep his power and end up like Heth did. :evil:
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And what about The Elders? Are they involved in anyway?
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The Elders are so poorly defined it's hard to tell. If we're talking about the apparently-immortal godlike chessmasters of Theodicy/Empyrean Age, probably not directly (though thankfully the current lore team seems to be happy to dump that particular TonyGism at the first chance).
If we're talking about The Elders as they are portrayed elsewhere, as the name of any tribal/clan leader of significant enough rank, almost undoubtedly. Under this definition, I'd say the Tribal Council is probably formed almost universally of Elders of varying rank, so definite yes.
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:eek:
Awesome!
+1
tribal assembly being the real executive power is nothing but good news.
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The Elders are so poorly defined it's hard to tell. If we're talking about the apparently-immortal godlike chessmasters of Theodicy/Empyrean Age, probably not directly (though thankfully the current lore team seems to be happy to dump that particular TonyGism at the first chance).
If we're talking about The Elders as they are portrayed elsewhere, as the name of any tribal/clan leader of significant enough rank, almost undoubtedly. Under this definition, I'd say the Tribal Council is probably formed almost universally of Elders of varying rank, so definite yes.
This.
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Yes it's a good thing overall. They are changing Shakor into some guy that was good apparently, which i'm not sure to like, but well vOv.
But for the mystical Elders of doom coming from TonyG, I would rather like them to adress the point asap instead of ignoring it. It's only harmful in the long run since people will continue to take them into consideration (since they are PF) and wonder wtf it's all about and focus on how stupid it is. It would have been the same if Heth and Providence Directorate were ignored.
Instead they should take the thing at face value and try to make it more mundane, or explain how it was a sham / not so ridiculously godmoddy / Just a bunch of Minmatar conspiracy or whatever... Just like they could do the same demystification process on the Broker.
Ignoring all the gripes in the PF will not make them less true. Fixing them by dampening their wtf effect and then fixing them is the way to go. Still waiting for that to happen to :
- The Elders
- Zombie Jamyl / The Other
- The Broker
- The Enheduasomething
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The Elders, yes well. My preferred idea is that having served Shakor's ends during the crisis brought on by the discovery of the Starkmanir he has some of his people quietly kill them & dump the remains in a handy star.
I suspect this would slightly contradict Templar One, but I haven't been able to bring myself to pay out in order to read it. I must check to see if the local public library has a copy now.
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The Elders, yes well. My preferred idea is that having served Shakor's ends during the crisis brought on by the discovery of the Starkmanir he has some of his people quietly kill them & dump the remains in a handy star.
I suspect this would slightly contradict Templar One, but I haven't been able to bring myself to pay out in order to read it. I must check to see if the local public library has a copy now.
I think the Elders are still occupied with Project Skymother and had Shakor do so and so and so with the Republic to act as a smokescreen to their plans. With all the high profile news coming out, nobody's going to pay attention to the issue of the evaporating Gallentean money.
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The Elders are so poorly defined it's hard to tell. If we're talking about the apparently-immortal godlike chessmasters of Theodicy/Empyrean Age, probably not directly (though thankfully the current lore team seems to be happy to dump that particular TonyGism at the first chance).
If we're talking about The Elders as they are portrayed elsewhere, as the name of any tribal/clan leader of significant enough rank, almost undoubtedly. Under this definition, I'd say the Tribal Council is probably formed almost universally of Elders of varying rank, so definite yes.
I'm hoping they are somewhere between the two, not immortal or godlike, but carefully selected "wise men" (or women!). Probably carefully trained in the art of persuading people to follow their ideas and ideals.
I think the Elders are still occupied with Project Skymother and had Shakor do so and so and so with the Republic to act as a smokescreen to their plans. With all the high profile news coming out, nobody's going to pay attention to the issue of the evaporating Gallentean money.
This probably best describes my thoughts, along with the idea that the Elders have decided that most of the Minmatar in the Republic are not worth saving, too corrupted maybe.
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The Elders, yes well. My preferred idea is that having served Shakor's ends during the crisis brought on by the discovery of the Starkmanir he has some of his people quietly kill them & dump the remains in a handy star.
I suspect this would slightly contradict Templar One, but I haven't been able to bring myself to pay out in order to read it. I must check to see if the local public library has a copy now.
My preferred idea is actually the opposite. Shakor is the public face to a tribalist movement. "The Elders" potentially being influential people behind the conspiracy to turn a bunch of gallentean money into a fleet. They merely appropriated their name from minmatar legend. Now that their tribalist vision is closer to being realized, it's Shakor who is being dumped... Hence why he's no longer de facto prime minister, has no vote on the tribal council, and has not called a state of emergency to seize all of that power back.