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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Kyoko Sakoda on 02 Jun 2011, 17:58
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Because I know Content/Storyline supports Game Design and not the other way around, but WTF?
(Yes this is a slight troll post. Not ashamed of it.)
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wut?
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Yes, your duds should blow up on ship loss, not pod loss. What ever happened to HTFU, CCP?
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I'm on the same page.
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I think they call it a money sink. As if they weren't preying on your vanity already... ;)
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Yes, your duds should blow up on ship loss, not pod loss. What ever happened to HTFU, CCP?
I actually think this would make so much more sense (even though it'd still be stupid). It also means the items could be priced cheaper, because they'd blow up more often. I can understand why a pilot might want to have their favorite clothes on a ship.
And yes, I took ECON101, I know that these things need to be destructible. Retconning isn't the way to go, though.
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It's not a retcon. The dev posts in the thread made it clear they consider the stuff to be somehow in, like, a trunk or something. (That's not exactly right but gets the point across.) And it certainly works for the monocles and such.
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It's not a retcon. The dev posts in the thread made it clear they consider the stuff to be somehow in, like, a trunk or something. (That's not exactly right but gets the point across.) And it certainly works for the monocles and such.
Sorry, I don't read 50 page trollnaughts.
That sounds a bit silly, but well, whatever I guess. :\
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I think they call it a money sink. As if they weren't preying on your vanity already... ;)
If they call it that, they are wrong. Unless they mean RL money, because all super-special clothing does with ISKies is shuffle them around. Or did I miss the part where they added an ISK cost on top of the Aurum cost?
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I think they call it a money sink. As if they weren't preying on your vanity already... ;)
If they call it that, they are wrong. Unless they mean RL money, because all super-special clothing does with ISKies is shuffle them around. Or did I miss the part where they added an ISK cost on top of the Aurum cost?
Someone's gotta buy the Aurum before it gets to the market. That costs money.
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In an effort to clarify: Yes, I agree. But not an ISK sink. A RL one, though in that case it's in the 'waste' sense of the term rather than the 'way to control in-game inflation' sense.
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Small pod luggage compartment for personal effects? The size of, say, a duffel bag?
Makes sense to me.
As for the "micro-transaction" aspect ...
... not bothered really. Some people pay for their licenses with ISK, others with RL money. It's already hard to explain from an IC perspective, thus probably best glossed over.
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The pod clearly has a built-in suitcase for a change of clothes you can carry with you. Otherwise, when you docked your pod at a station, decanted, showered and reached for something to wear, you'd find...
... something like station-issue overalls, or a dispensing machine for T-shirts and shapeless drawstring pants, or the Amarrian equivalent of hotel bathrobes (and "For clothes that fit, call XXX-XXX").
It actually makes a kind of sense.
Just... managing my wardrobe inventory was something I was previously happy handwaving. :)
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Maybe our ships are cross-capsule, and it's stored in a little suitcase next to the capsule on the bridge.
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If you may have noticed, the Aurum will make the ISK price of the PLEX go up phenomenally.
Hence making people that pay for their gametime with ISK have to use it as even a greater ISK sink, making it all a bit more profitable for CCP.
Quite genius if you think of it.
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CCP has indicated unofficially that they don't want the price of PLEX to go up in ISK terms. And when you think about it, they'd rather more people use it (slightly better margin for them), so they'd prefer for PLEX to drop down from the current ~400m price point.
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If you may have noticed, the Aurum will make the ISK price of the PLEX go up phenomenally.
Hence making people that pay for their gametime with ISK have to use it as even a greater ISK sink, making it all a bit more profitable for CCP.
Quite genius if you think of it.
That is not how you sink ISK. Sinking ISK = removing it from the economy.
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The current price of PLEX is due to speculation. As Cas said, the lower the price of PLEX the better because there will be more demand (to a certain lower limit, or no one would sell them for ISK). Once the items are released, we'll start seeing what both CCP and players value them at. If the price of PLEX hasn't gone down by then, CCP will likely adjust the PLEX/Aurum ratio.
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CCP has indicated unofficially that they don't want the price of PLEX to go up in ISK terms. And when you think about it, they'd rather more people use it (slightly better margin for them), so they'd prefer for PLEX to drop down from the current ~400m price point.
I'd like a reimbursement then please, I had to drop 400m to keep my alt account running. I'm considering switching to paying for it with real money, but that's just me having the luxury of a media account. Not everyone can afford that. Plenty of people not really able to afford a main account to begin with.
Is there any news on the Quafe t-shirt, if that is worn and you are podded, will it be destroyed? Because if it is it'll go right into the bin with the collector items. I'd be sad to part with it.
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Aurum potentially has a loop where clothes bought with a single PLEX sell for more than a single PLEX's worth in ISK. This will act as a PLEX sink and momentarily increase the value of PLEX. However, it likely isn't sustainable for very long - since once those who care have their clothes, unless lots of people get podded in their finest, the demand is going to drop very sharp after the initial rush. The income of new players may or may not be enough to keep a smaller-volume cycle running. And CCP's possible modification of the PLEX/Aurum exchange rate may mess up bad with some people's plans. Though I assume that sneaky individuals will outwit CCP's economist - because he thinks like a real-world economist and very likely hasn't yet gotten the idea of people exploiting the economy worse than any speculator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros) ever has in real world.
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Not looked at this stuff much, so maybe I'm wrong about it, but it all sounds utterly banal and hateful at first blush. It has the stench of something abhorrent dreamt up up by some unholy coupling of Marketing and Accounts. Maybe people are fine with the Great CCP Sell Out as long as they get a nice virtual hat to wear? Maybe my instinctive reaction to all of this bandwagoning is misguided? Either way: meh.
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It appears that their RMT shop isn't ready for ship skins, so as a temporary solution, they suggested creating Scorpions (one of the few ships with new textures & models) straight from the shop (i.e. without having a "legitimately" made Scorpion as a component). This created a minor threadnought, and it appears that CCP is backing up on the project, explaining that "we wouldn't release it right away, now we might not release it until the shop can swap it to a T1 Scorpion".
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Not looked at this stuff much, so maybe I'm wrong about it, but it all sounds utterly banal and hateful at first blush. It has the stench of something abhorrent dreamt up up by some unholy coupling of Marketing and Accounts. Maybe people are fine with the Great CCP Sell Out as long as they get a nice virtual hat to wear? Maybe my instinctive reaction to all of this bandwagoning is misguided? Either way: meh.
From what I can tell, it's not really any kind of downward step from sanctioned RMTing that already exists. It would be different if the stuff could only be purchased for Aurum, but as it is, once it is purchased initially it can be traded on the market for ISK.
Of course, on the down side, reliable sources inform me that most of the stuff you can buy is ugly. That part makes me sad.