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[Alba Miri]

Hey,

yes, it’s Alba Miri

Jakiin, I think you are right with some of your remarks: Very few people care for the JNC’s goal, but I believe the reason is that they don’t care for the Jin-Mei at all. I think, Boma Airaken, you hit the bull’s eye! The ask politely stuff won’t work, that’s clear and no one would find interest in a corporation that fosters traditional drink and dress habits, because there is no way to translate it into game mechanics. So what is left? Terrorism for instance.

For me the question isn’t, does it work, but the question is, does it make fun? I was really surprised how much reaction this little JNC thing bred already. The debates and the ingame roleplay session really have been fun! On the other hand I was also surprised how little Jin-Mei players reacted and that there were no Caldari roleplayers seeing a good chance to assault the Federation. However, you were awesome and it was really amazing.

Unfortunately RL is calling, so in the meantime the JNC will be less active.

Best regards!

P.S.: Alba Miri is an alt, but it would be a bit boring to reveal its identity, wouldn’t it?

[Louella Dougans]

the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter if you think about it), and so are seen as hiding their true intents behind legitimate morals (... dolls of Graelyn).

So, where exactly does one sign-up for the corp that is fighting for children's dolls of Graelyn?

the Doll War was between my corp, and a corp of Ebil Blood Nuns

[Sofia Roseburn]

the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter if you think about it), and so are seen as hiding their true intents behind legitimate morals (... dolls of Graelyn).

So, where exactly does one sign-up for the corp that is fighting for children's dolls of Graelyn?

the Doll War was between my corp, and a corp of Ebil Blood Nuns

But I want to be e-famous too .

Faekedit: Not really.

[Louella Dougans]

the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter if you think about it), and so are seen as hiding their true intents behind legitimate morals (... dolls of Graelyn).

So, where exactly does one sign-up for the corp that is fighting for children's dolls of Graelyn?

the Doll War was between my corp, and a corp of Ebil Blood Nuns

But I want to be e-famous too .

Faekedit: Not really.

wait, this is also a Doll War? i thought it was about something else?

[Sofia Roseburn]

the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter if you think about it), and so are seen as hiding their true intents behind legitimate morals (... dolls of Graelyn).

So, where exactly does one sign-up for the corp that is fighting for children's dolls of Graelyn?

the Doll War was between my corp, and a corp of Ebil Blood Nuns

But I want to be e-famous too .

Faekedit: Not really.

wait, this is also a Doll War? i thought it was about something else?

Darina and I established last night that there's a couple of ways it could end. A Graelyn doll or a lot of money were two that sprang to mind.

A cat is fine too.

[Boma Airaken]

PLEASE keep it up Alba, you are the only one on my team







((sucks for you))

[Saxon Hawke]

The problem I've seen with the extremist movements in Eve RP is that they have an even tougher time recruiting than other RP corps and an exponentially harder time keeping their intensity.

A few former ILF guys went off and formed Intaki Pure, essentially Intaki eugenics fanatics. They are fun to banter with, but counting all their alts I think they've got like 5 people.

Some of the stuff they come up with is really kind of vile, so its hard to pull people in. That and the fact that they only take Intaki pilots.

My suggestion: Make the JNC a griefer corp. Set up shop in Lirsautton and conduct suicide ganks, ninja salvaging, loot theft, etc. I remember for a while when I was working for the Fed Navy in Aunia a group called Suddenly Ninjas were every-freaking-where stealing loot and salvage.

They weren't really RP, but they certainly made an impact on the area. Had they been an RP organization it would have been very easy to adapt what they were doing into any number of IGS scenarios.

Another thought: Avoid war dec-ing until you can actually launch some attacks. I understand the political sentiment, but it makes your position look weak if you don't actually engage.

[Mizhara]

The problem I've seen with the extremist movements in Eve RP is that they have an even tougher time recruiting than other RP corps and an exponentially harder time keeping their intensity.

A few former ILF guys went off and formed Intaki Pure, essentially Intaki eugenics fanatics. They are fun to banter with, but counting all their alts I think they've got like 5 people.

As a former Du'uma Fiisi pilot... quoted for bloody truth. There's almost no way to keep up any real extremist RP as a corporation. As soon as someone realizes "Oh, but this means I can't be best buddies with people from all factions, and this might be an inconvencience RP wise.", they're gone before you can say 'what happened to principles?'.

It's honestly gone so far that Eve RP is getting less and less attractive to me, since unless you RP an apologist or supporter of the various nasty things around (Slavery, specific religions, piracy or what have you) you'll be an outcast.

[Ulphus]

... unless you RP an apologist or supporter of the various nasty things around (Slavery, specific religions, piracy or what have you) you'll be an outcast.

From my point of view, pirates and especially slavers are the outcasts, and I don't socialise with them, but then I socialised with Du'uma Fiisi once, and never again after I met Miz.

I think EM gets away with it by being big enough that they can avoid socialising with characters who don't fit, and still have enough RP to be fun. It's why I mostly stopped going to the Last Gate for instance; partly because of the slavers, and partly because VETO got set red.

Without consequences to choices, what do they really mean?

[BloodBird]

Without consequences to choices, what do they really mean?

Practically nothing. And this suits me fine. While it is possible to have an outlook of 'what your doing is cruel because of X, but I'd still consider you to be a [insert positive trait here]. While this won't change the fact that we are [insert negative situation, like war] I'd just like you to know I don't absolutely hate you, as a person.'

I've seen the above quite alot. I'm fine with it and think it's quite natural; most balanced individuals can separate one's person from one's actions; for instance, my former char, while a Federal, still maintained respect for a few State citizens and a couple Imperials, while disliking a few 'pro-Minmatar' for their actions and the way their char's behaved socially.

Actions should have reactions, and while having people set red or being political or ideological enemies could well and should well be a barrier of sorts, this don't have to imply that you HAVE to stop being civil or even leave your RP group due to conflicting ideologies between OOC friends. That's just... not needed. This is why people have OOC channels - to socialize as players regardless of IC stand-points. I've seen people take the OOC to levels where the IC is aborted (leaving corp for OOC reasons like 'I can't fight a friend of mine' instead of 'it's what my char would do' and other such things) or adjusted. I know one faction that alters their actions to allways remain blue to one other faction, even if that other faction is in opposition of thier IC desires and ideals, or so it seems. That makes no sense to me.

Fighting friends could be fun too - when my RL friend Ayalen took a stab at piracy some time back I hunted his ass down and poped him. Now that was quite fun, tbh.

When I left DUTY. to join MXD in FW I had to deal with being a direct enemy of Stitcher, even if I'd enjoyed flying with him and the others back in Duty. I dealt with that and went on with my desired actions from an IC stand-point.

IC actions should and do cause IC reactions. The OOC don't have to be altered in the slightest. Why go 'booh, your in X now, we are enemies and got to fight one another -.-' when you can go 'Seems we are foes now, this should be fun! See ya in space' Then just take it as it goes and chat about it later.

[Isobel Mitar]

I think EM gets away with it by being big enough that they can avoid socialising with characters who don't fit, and still have enough RP to be fun.

I have imagined most IC factions probably would have their own OOC RP communities, and that some communities just make more noise about their RP stuff (on forums etc) and/or interact more with other communities than others. (I have personal experience only of EM who are Republic loyalists, though.)

Such forming would seem pretty natural to me, as I expect most characters would be keener to talk with good guys than with bad ones. Who is seen as a good/okay/bad guy and why just depends on the viewpoint.