Have to agree with Repracor here. SeyCon may be established and all, but unless it's actually going to be on the near horizon people should not be demanded to hold off on their own events for it.
So. If SeyCon will happen within the next, say, two weeks, on a date that Jenn's event can orient to? Great, wonderful, put them together. If it won't? Then oh well, SeyCon can do without their symposium. So, SeyCon people: If you want other people to orient their events around your thing: Get on it. If you aren't, then you can't blame people for not waiting.
And frankly, considering the recent history of SeyCon (getting cancelled last year, and being heavily delayed this year), it doesn't exactly look like a very reliable or promising thing. The RP community needs more events, period, not some single "grand" event that gets canceled and delayed constantly.
The last dates we discussed internally were the exact same dates Jenn suggested and have had no negative responses to them. So, assuming Nemo responds to Saede's poke and the handful of outstanding mails/questions that are in the Seycon organization mailing list, uh, yeah, it would be around the same time.
That said, we're also about to get a lore dump via all of the Tiamat stuff next week. Which leaves like, a week and a half for people to incorporate the new content into whatever they want to present. That's not a lot of time (arguably not enough) regardless of which event it is, especially if people presenting don't want to look like underprepared idiots bumbling over their notes.
This also isn't about being elitist or toeing any lines. As far as I'm concerned, more people getting involved is better - and the more people involved with pushing an event along the less likely it is to get stalled by one or two people getting a razorblade shoved up their ass by RL.
If I wanted to shit on things, I would not have taken the "hey, there's another similar thing that's already being worked on and needs a bit of nudging over the top of the hill, maybe you could come help out with that one and kill two birds with one stone" route.
Yeah this, not trying to shit over anyone's parade. I want there to be one really excellent scientific conference type event. I don't care if its Seycon, or your thing, or something I pull out of my ass tomorrow, I just want there to be
something and I want that something to be as big and wide in scope as possible. If the SeyCon people can't get things together, then I'm perfectly willing to toss it out and replace it with a new conference that serves the same purpose, run by people who can get on top of it.
That said, we should decide what we're doing here and now in that regard. I'd honestly not be opposed to seeing Repracor completely take the reigns from SeyCon and import all the old organisers to help out, give it a new name/location or whatever. I'd be willing to help it out. Under the rules of SeyCon I can't present and help organise, which is why I haven't been helping organise previously, but frankly, fuck that rule, if organisation needs to happen and no one else is doing it, I'll do it.
I'd also agree that +1 week from Tiamat is probably too soon to hold it, I think the weekend of the 27th through the 1st would probably be a good time to schedule. Its recent enough that all the shit currently going on will remain relevant, but far enough out to allow people to incorporate the new things coming with Tiamat.
So essentially, I think there should be one major SeyCon-esque event, I don't care what its called, where it is, or who runs it, I just want to see it happen, and I don't want to see it fragment into a bunch of little conferences that get a handful of participants and fail to make waves.