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Louella Dougans

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Bacteria and clones
« on: 29 Sep 2013, 08:06 »
the human body has a natural population of internal and external microbes.

These populations would vary between planetary populations.

Clones would have artificial populations of bacteria introduced as part of the finishing process.

Which means, there is the opportunity, for customised bacteria populations, and to commercialise the process.

Selling to the capsuleer market, companies could produce individualised bacteria packages.

"Does the stress of flying your battleship give you wind? New! Poteque brings you Deflatorix Anti-Gas intestinal bacteria!" or something vOv
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Lyn Farel

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #1 on: 29 Sep 2013, 10:40 »
Strawberry flavored !
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Morwen Lagann

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #2 on: 29 Sep 2013, 21:22 »
This is, believe it or not, something they already actually do IRL as treatments for certain medical issues.

Yes. Fecal transplants are a Thing.

No, I'm not joking. I'm completely serious. :psyccp:
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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #3 on: 30 Sep 2013, 01:15 »
Well, don't people already eat 'designer bacteria' now with probiotic yogurts and stuff?
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Elmund Egivand

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #4 on: 30 Sep 2013, 03:15 »
Pend Insurance packages now comes included with free pro-biotic drinks.
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Anslol

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #5 on: 30 Sep 2013, 07:22 »
Quote from: Arista Shahni on 30 Sep 2013, 01:15
Well, don't people already eat 'designer bacteria' now with probiotic yogurts and stuff?

Yeah but that's more nutritional stuff. Lou's talking about bacertia based medical treatments for mid-flight stuff like gas. However, I though bacteria would cause gas, not mitigate it (by products of bacteria biological processes).  I don't know how you'd use bacteria to enhance/augment the pod experience to be honest. Most benefits bacteria or other organisms could provide would be provided by machines.

That said, however, we're supposed to be content creators so...maybe a bacteria package to mitigate capsuleer/space based illnesses?...hmm...

ARISTA. QUICK. TO THE LAB.

Edit: AND BRING THE SPONGES!! AND 5 PETRI DISHES. AND FIVE FEDOS, A LONG-LIMB ROE, SOME BAKING POWDER, PIETER, A GIANT NEEDLE, AND A BOWL OF CORNFLAKES. THERE IS SCIENCE TO BE DONE!
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Arista Shahni

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #6 on: 30 Sep 2013, 09:57 »
ONLY FIVE DISHES?!

THIS EXPERIMENT NEEDS MORE CONTROL!!



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Anslol

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #7 on: 30 Sep 2013, 11:50 »
Fine...bring all the dishes. All of them.
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Louella Dougans

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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #8 on: 30 Sep 2013, 12:02 »
I was also thinking about how capsuleers might be in a position to use customised bacteria packages, to allow them to consume the most exotic foods available, without any ill effects.


But also, bacteria packages as health maintenance tools, when ordering a new clone from the facility.
Preferred diet, living environment, sexual partners, that sort of thing. Choose a bacteria suite that provides optimum health for the client's lifestyle.

And all the fun of saying things like "no, the blue one", "Yes, I will have that option", when buying a new car. Add some of that kind of fun to ordering a new body and so on.
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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #9 on: 30 Sep 2013, 13:23 »
A more 'natural' alternative to artificial alterations.....a vegan/organic movement in Eve...mirroring RL hippies?!

Arista! Fetch more lemur brains! Extra-crazy ones! Muaahahahaaa!!
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Re: Bacteria and clones
« Reply #10 on: 30 Sep 2013, 20:06 »
To answer Lou's question about how capsuleers might be in a position to use that kind of tech you have to consider two things:

1. Is it possible?

With enough future-tech speculative fiction and good reasoning, it's probably possible.

2. Is it more efficient and cheaper than current gold-standard treatment?

That's what sees it get to market and be accepted as the new gold-standard or first-line treatment.

To use Morwen's example - FMT/fecal transplant - has a very specific indication which is persisting/difficult to eradicate C. difficile infection. The thing about this infection is that it typically resolves with a single or repeated dose of a cheap oral antibiotic in the majority of cases. Persisting infection is rare, and as such so is FMT treatment which has been around for 50+ years and has never really been considered a first line therapy. An RCT last year has positioned it to be considered as such but there's still a lot more research required before it replaces the antibiotic therapy.

To my way of thinking, those are the two hurdles that need to be considered when writing believable player-created fiction about this stuff.
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