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Aelisha Montenagre

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #15 on: 26 Sep 2013, 09:14 »

I guess I just expected his presence to be felt through the medium of micro-transactions that make sense at first, but turn out to be p2win upon inspection.  I guess if he is responsible, hats off to his sense of restraint - but this is still a dick move.
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Anslol

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #16 on: 26 Sep 2013, 09:17 »

Slowly and surely, he is tempting admin with promises of higher subs, less vitriolic bitter vets, shoveled shit to look like 'new content,' and lots of money.

People keep saying this is just conspiracy theorizing, but from a business perspective, it makes sense to me.
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Vincent Pryce

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« Reply #17 on: 26 Sep 2013, 09:30 »

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Tiberious Thessalonia

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #18 on: 26 Sep 2013, 09:58 »

I thought everyone knew CCP hired an ex-EA exec for operations and marketing?? Or did you think all this shit was happening at the same time by the grace of a bitter God?

The thing that people are confused about is that this isn't an EA like move.
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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #20 on: 26 Sep 2013, 11:20 »

They're irreleveant NOW?  Specifically NOW?

well, when there's a lot of unreleased content, NeX clothes for example, that could have been used as rewards for the live events, but CCP says "No" to that, then... what is the purpose of live events ?

with recent changes in policies, live events in future will be loot pinatas without the loot, and their effect on the "storyline" is trivial. So, why bother getting involved ? Other than to :drama: at other RPers (as if drama is a scarce commodity).

Participation is its own reward? vOv. If people want to wait around all day for something to happen, fly many jumps only to arrive as things are winding down, and/or explode without feeling like their presence meant anything, they can do all that already. In some cases, do all that and make ISK so doing.

So... vOv
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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #21 on: 26 Sep 2013, 11:59 »

Also, did they get round to issuing the Battle of Caldari Prime medals at all yet ?
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Makoto Priano

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #22 on: 26 Sep 2013, 13:19 »

C/P from another blog:

CCP's Marketing Department is really handout-happy with the exclusive ships. It's starting to get vexing, and I say this as a terribad roleplayer.

CCP has a bunch of reskinned ships in the database already. They should give us a means of selecting paint job from the stock ones, or linking paintjobs with LP store 'navy' versions of the ships. (IE, the Scorpion Ishukone Watch Issue has the stats of a Scorpion Navy Issue, but the Ishukone skin, and comes via the Ishukone and Ishukone Watch LP store; uses existing balance, gives a shiny ship a use, and fractures the navy market a tiny bit.)

Voila. Content. Easy to make, uses lots of 'new' assets CCP started making ages ago, and sidesteps this terrible marketing love of digital incentives. ("It's free! Doesn't cost us anything! Except the satisfaction and support of the existing player base.")

The exclusive ships-- ugh. Just, ugh. Someone needs to slap CCP marketing. They're doing a disservice to the game.
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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #23 on: 26 Sep 2013, 13:57 »

CCP caved on giving away the Magnate and the G-Vexor ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281298&find=unread )

Still favouring Somer though.
Changed prices to some cruiser revealed or a fully paid fanfest ticket.

Somer will be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #24 on: 26 Sep 2013, 14:03 »

tl;dr the whole thing is hilariously hypocritical.
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Lyn Farel

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #25 on: 26 Sep 2013, 15:32 »

Doesn't look very professional.
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Aelisha Montenagre

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #26 on: 27 Sep 2013, 02:12 »

CCP crisis management tends to go thusly:

"Oh god, his leg's come off, quick, give me the transfusion kit"
'Surely you mean the tourniquet first, right?'
"No, this man needs a transfusion!"
'He's still bleeding out.'
"Then we just need to transfuse(?) faster!  Now give me your arm or you're fired!"


Replace blood with money/credibility/jobs as appropriate and the metaphor becomes horrifying reality.

This on-going PR mismanagement farce is reaching an almost Jeeves and Wooster level of odd-couple buffonery between the community and CCP respectively.
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Lyn Farel

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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #27 on: 27 Sep 2013, 03:36 »

Is that how the whole eve community thinks as well of that situation ? Or just us ?
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Re: Gold Magnates
« Reply #28 on: 27 Sep 2013, 06:58 »

I'm all for reintroducing some of the rarer ships. I think catering to a handful of "collectors" and denying the rest of the players any means at all to acquire some of these items is far worse than CCP supporting their player communities. The somer crowd is just as valid a group as our little elitist club.
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« Reply #29 on: 27 Sep 2013, 07:02 »

That's only half of the issue, Karm.  The idea is that EVE is a game where history matters.  The ship existed.  It got blown up.  Leave it that way.

The other half of the issue is the more important one.  Blink is a group of players.  CCP is essentially handing them Trillions of ISK and expecting everyone to be okay with that.
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