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Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« on: 22 May 2013, 19:26 »

Quote from: Istvaan Shogaatsu, Posted: 2013.05.23 01:19
Hardly the first capsuleer admiral to take own life after losing tremendously important ship in rather humiliating circumstances... blasting a crater in the original homeworld of the Caldari isn't something I'd want on my record.
I would have thought that scarring the spiritual heart of an entire nation would be precisely the sort of thing Mr. Shogaatsu would want on his record. Is Istvaan becoming a patriot?

/summon Muck Raker
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Aria Jenneth

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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #1 on: 22 May 2013, 22:37 »

Istvaan's always seemed to have a sentimental attachment to the State, Creep. It's one of the reasons Aria gets a little fangirlish about him.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #2 on: 22 May 2013, 22:55 »

Istvaan's always seemed to have a sentimental attachment to the State, Creep. It's one of the reasons Aria gets a little fangirlish about him.
Huh. I thought he was attached to the Amarr.
Oh whatever, it's probably all misdirection and deceit anyways.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #3 on: 22 May 2013, 22:59 »

Gwen should give the story of what Istvaan did to her at Silas's party and the aftermath to Muck Raker. I'm sure she'd have a field day.
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Aria Jenneth

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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #4 on: 22 May 2013, 23:20 »

Istvaan's always seemed to have a sentimental attachment to the State, Creep. It's one of the reasons Aria gets a little fangirlish about him.
Huh. I thought he was attached to the Amarr.
Oh whatever, it's probably all misdirection and deceit anyways.

If so, it's a long game indeed.

Istvaan himself is Caldari, and has always come across as partisan in the Empyrean War even if he does not personally take part. Maybe these are his real feelings, maybe not, and I'm sure Istvaan wouldn't let any lingering loyalties slow him down if there were some specific gain in betraying them, but the pattern's long-running enough to suggest that he has a certain sympathy for New Eden's authoritarians.

That's my impression, anyway. He frequents this forum, so maybe he'll have something to say about it himself.


Gwen should give the story of what Istvaan did to her at Silas's party and the aftermath to Muck Raker. I'm sure she'd have a field day.

Blood Raider parties seem like something that Muck Raker would love all kinds of details about-- especially guest lists. Istvaan's specific doings would make a nicely salacious tidbit, but I suspect she'd want all kinds of other info.

It would limit how much she has to make up.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #5 on: 23 May 2013, 02:38 »

Gwen should give the story of what Istvaan did to her at Silas's party and the aftermath to Muck Raker. I'm sure she'd have a field day.
What happened there?  :P
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« Reply #6 on: 23 May 2013, 06:25 »

Gwen should give the story of what Istvaan did to her at Silas's party and the aftermath to Muck Raker. I'm sure she'd have a field day.

What did he do ?
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #7 on: 23 May 2013, 06:34 »

With the amount of drugs Mr. Shogaatsu does, it's likely he doesn't have a clue about which nation he's currenly in, only the vaguest clue about which one he's from, and certainly no inclination to sort out his precise loyalty and feelings towards any of them.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #8 on: 23 May 2013, 21:41 »

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe....



Graelyn: What in heaven's name brought you to Amarr?
Istvaan: My health. I came to Amarr for the waters.
Graelyn: The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.
Istvaan: I was misinformed.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #9 on: 28 May 2013, 14:00 »

I play Istvaan pretty carefully without betraying many hints of allegiance, so I'm pretty amazed that you picked up on that. And yes, "drug-obliterated human wreck that barely remembers where he's from" plays into it heavily as well.

And yeah, at the core, he's still Caldari, though he doesn't consciously consider himself as such anymore. Subconsciously, he derives his hatred of Gallenteans, his homophobia, and his racism toward Minmatar from that element of his past. He definitely was a Caldari patriot once, but only residual elements of that remain. He's seen too much out in space to have much loyalty left to a single dirtball, and would probably only take notice if that dirtball and everything he once was, suddenly ceased to exist (foreshadowing). He's one of the few capsuleers around with direct evidence of the big, scary shadow play behind Sarum and Heth and The Other, and literally knows the universe is about to up-end itself in a truly spectacular manner - in a way, his scope has expanded beyond nations, so Caldari isn't the first thing he thinks of when he looks to identify himself. One shouldn't forget that he's a complete and utter sociopath, and will always identify himself as himself first, with family/friends coming second, people whose power he desires third, and everyone else being largely inconsequential. He's been a megacorporate CEO, then he became a capsuleer, then he became the godfather of a criminal organization the whole goddamn charted universe still fears... each step moving him further away from what he was, but each step of what he was still shaping what he is.

Another aspect of the character is his loyalty to his own, which I see as inspired by Caldari loyalty, whether to home, state, parent corporation, whatever. So perhaps not a complete 100% sociopath. There's that one value. He may be a drug addled thief who doesn't bat an eye at killing thousands, but damned if he doesn't have one redeeming value. If you fuck with someone he considers important to him, he'll go Niko Bellic on you.

Ooh, I got to yammer on about my character. I am pleased.
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #10 on: 28 May 2013, 14:10 »

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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #11 on: 28 May 2013, 14:39 »

He's one of the few capsuleers around with direct evidence of the big, scary shadow play behind Sarum and Heth and The Other, and literally knows the universe is about to up-end itself in a truly spectacular manner -
Usually, if someone said this about their character, I'd go 'lol godmoding', but this is Istvaan Shogaatsu, and I suspect you probably do have legitimate spoilers acquired ingame that the rest of us do not (particularly since your fan fiction in the past has been...prophetic). Damn you, old man!
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #12 on: 28 May 2013, 15:47 »

Spoilers from CCP actors ?
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #13 on: 28 May 2013, 16:19 »

Spoilers from CCP actors ?
Or out of game, since he runs EON, doesn't he? But yeah, kind of like when Verone was approached by Sansha regarding the Kyonoke virus, I can easily imagine a character mailing Shogaatsu with a "Hey, we're holding a massive cataclysm that will rock the very foundations of the universe, could you cater it?"
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Re: Has Istvaan turned over a new stone?
« Reply #14 on: 28 May 2013, 20:02 »

Nah, nothing from CCP actors, ever. And I don't run EON, I just wrote for it a bit :p I do however work under the assumption that the end of Eve was written when it began, and that there's a "bible" somewhere guiding its plot. I could be wrong, but so far my guesses have proven right, and if you know all roads lead to Rome, you can guess some of the turns and crossroads...

Anyway, this is the reason I don't like anyone giving Tony G. shit. He didn't invent any of the crazy shit he wrote about, if my theory holds. He just wrote about an existing plot that has been unfolding for a very long time. It's also why I like the character of Jamyl Sarum so much... the stuff I always knew to be in the background is coming to the fore through Jamyl. The most recent Jamyl Chron is *so much like* my early EC stories, right down to italicizing the mysterious head-voice's lines, that I find myself renewed in addiction to Eve's storyline. If my guesses for the future are right, those of you discomforted by Jamyl's psychic powers ain't seen shit yet. We're going to war with the gods, and I don't think us winning is in the books.

The prophecy of Macaper holds the key! ;p
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