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Author Topic: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?  (Read 8046 times)

Esna Pitoojee

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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #45 on: 10 May 2013, 11:08 »

Just a note here - the Kaaputenen-Niarja jump is an incredibly long one, reaching across entire highsec "core" and roughly ~1/5 to 1/6 of the EVE cluster (based on a quick glance at the ingame map) in length. I severely doubt it is within cyno range.

Now my personal thoughts on this: It's not going to work. It would leave a colossal number of loose strings open storyline-wise (Khanid culture? lolololol, not anymore!) and have a number of technical difficulties, the least of which is the poor alignment of lowsec regions for a realignment of the conflict that way (Amarr and Caldari currently share only that one direct highsec route; Amarr and Gallente share at least lowsec 2 border systems and another only 2J through Minmatar lowsec).

So, yeah. Cooling of relations? Maybe. An outright, sudden, dramatic declaration of hostilities, in a time when we are trying to undo a lot of other outright, sudden, dramatic screwups? I certainly hope not.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #46 on: 10 May 2013, 11:25 »

BELAY THAT ORDER! FIRE EVERYTHING!

Uh, at who? Our greatest allies for the last five years?

EVVVVVVVVERRRRRRYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEE


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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #47 on: 10 May 2013, 16:42 »

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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #48 on: 10 May 2013, 22:30 »

I think it would make more sense for the State to deal with Heth then enter into a position of armed neutrality, making profit as the other three empires bleed themselves white against each other, working behind the scenes to stoke the flames of war while gaining as many concessions as possible dangling military intervention for each side as the prize to be won.

I'd still settle for a proper four way and a nice FW thunderdome of interconnected low-sec where everyone gets the chance to annex as much territory of everyone else as possible. They should also integrate the pirate factions into the mix by having their own "militias" trying to exploit the destabilizing political situation to muscle their way into former empire territories.

Anyway, I think for a long time the alliances as they are seem to have been taken for granted as being a static game mechanic, it's good to see some tensions in the old order - as it should be really.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #49 on: 11 May 2013, 02:29 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #50 on: 11 May 2013, 07:06 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #51 on: 11 May 2013, 07:14 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #52 on: 11 May 2013, 08:03 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?

Not really. They found Black Rise.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #53 on: 11 May 2013, 08:24 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?

Not really. They found Black Rise.

Cut connections add lowsec regions between current trade hubs?
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #54 on: 11 May 2013, 08:28 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?

Not really. They found Black Rise.

Cut connections add lowsec regions between current trade hubs?

This is something I've been wanting for ages.
It's one of those hopes that keep me clinging on.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #55 on: 11 May 2013, 08:43 »

I'd really like to see that too.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #56 on: 11 May 2013, 08:49 »


Cut connections add lowsec regions between current trade hubs?

That is what they did back in like 2006. Yulai used to be the central Hub of EVE and Amarr was about 6 jumps from Pator. It makes sense that eventually CCP will feel a need to decentralize the network again given that the game is much more populated now. The low-sec regions already exist, as well, its just that certain routes allow you to skip them.

If you have tensions developing IC its semi-likely that they are going to be used as a way of decentralizing Empire space further.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #57 on: 11 May 2013, 10:17 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?

Not really. They found Black Rise.

Black Rise was a "region" of space before it was a region of space connected to the jump gate network.  Back in 2006 it was labeled on the map.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #58 on: 11 May 2013, 10:30 »

Something interesting to think about is that if the highways between Amarr and Caldari and Gallente and Matari get canned that should really shake up the trade hubs. Jita will be much further from Amarr, ect.

Oh that would totally change the map. It'd be crazy.

Speaking of changing the map. Is there something preventing new regions being "found"?

Not really. They found Black Rise.

Black Rise was a "region" of space before it was a region of space connected to the jump gate network.  Back in 2006 it was labeled on the map.
Which suggests that we could one day get nearer to the Pool of Radiance (Stain), and other "empty" spots on the map which are noted as having stuff in them.
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Re: Reclaiming the Caldari: Will CCP dare?
« Reply #59 on: 11 May 2013, 11:30 »

They should also integrate the pirate factions into the mix by having their own "militias" trying to exploit the destabilizing political situation to muscle their way into former empire territories.

One of the things that makes me sad about EVE is that the opposite of this will *never* be true - because if the Empires win ground high-sec or atl low-sec will spread and CCP's end-goal is stated to be null space. Ergo, no matter what they do, the Empires will never win a war with the pirates they oppose - the war with them is thus unwinnable and the pirates are doomed to be the gainers.

Well, it fits with the grimdark, I guess. Personally I'd love to see this happen though as a war involving the pirates (or even with the various empire militias vs their pirates of choice for 4 1v1 wars instead of an 8-way brawl or more) is one I'd be more interested in being part of as a character. More logical enemies etc.
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