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Vincent Pryce

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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #45 on: 25 Feb 2013, 09:09 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

"We urge you to reconsider your statement, citizen."
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Anslol

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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #46 on: 25 Feb 2013, 09:19 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

"We urge you to reconsider your statement, citizen."


COME AT ME BRO
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #47 on: 25 Feb 2013, 09:58 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

Because?
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Anslol

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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #48 on: 25 Feb 2013, 10:05 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

Because?

Because ICly Anslo dislikes the cloak and dagger Provist-esque black ops being executed on citizens and baseliners of the Federation in a time and era where the Fed is supposedly the paragon of freedom of speech. It's turned into, 'oh you can say whatever unless we don't like it.'

He doesn't care if it's one instance, he doesn't care if it's 'for the good of the Federation.' The government does not get to tell the people what is good for them. If the people decide a government is too oppressive or does not approve of its actions and speak out against it, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

If someone wants to write lyrics about Caldari and Gallenteans making peace and getting over the past to stop this pointless war, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

IF someone wants to report on an unwarranted black ops raid on a concert because blaque didn't like someone who's lyrics rubbed him the wrong way and NOT have to worry about a media black out of federal goon threats, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

IF someone wants to try and keep Minmatar refugees in the Fed safe from some dumb ass Black Eagle agent asking eggers to kill them for information and being a callous racist jerk towards them, further spurring on an emerging culture of racism and xenophobia towards anything NOT gallentean, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

Thoun, Mentas, the Black Eagles, Roden, they're tearing apart the Federation Anslo loves. And for those who have RP'd with Anslo, they know what happens when someone threatens someone or someTHING he cares about.
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #49 on: 25 Feb 2013, 10:50 »

He gets really angry and yells at them alot?  :lol:
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #50 on: 25 Feb 2013, 10:57 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

Because?

Because ICly Anslo dislikes the cloak and dagger Provist-esque black ops being executed on citizens and baseliners of the Federation in a time and era where the Fed is supposedly the paragon of freedom of speech. It's turned into, 'oh you can say whatever unless we don't like it.'

He doesn't care if it's one instance, he doesn't care if it's 'for the good of the Federation.' The government does not get to tell the people what is good for them. If the people decide a government is too oppressive or does not approve of its actions and speak out against it, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

If someone wants to write lyrics about Caldari and Gallenteans making peace and getting over the past to stop this pointless war, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

IF someone wants to report on an unwarranted black ops raid on a concert because blaque didn't like someone who's lyrics rubbed him the wrong way and NOT have to worry about a media black out of federal goon threats, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

IF someone wants to try and keep Minmatar refugees in the Fed safe from some dumb ass Black Eagle agent asking eggers to kill them for information and being a callous racist jerk towards them, further spurring on an emerging culture of racism and xenophobia towards anything NOT gallentean, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

Thoun, Mentas, the Black Eagles, Roden, they're tearing apart the Federation Anslo loves. And for those who have RP'd with Anslo, they know what happens when someone threatens someone or someTHING he cares about.

Are these simply examples of what you and/or your toon thinks is being done/can be done or do you know something I have missed?

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Anslol

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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #51 on: 25 Feb 2013, 11:20 »

Thoun and Blaque need put down =_=

Because?

Because ICly Anslo dislikes the cloak and dagger Provist-esque black ops being executed on citizens and baseliners of the Federation in a time and era where the Fed is supposedly the paragon of freedom of speech. It's turned into, 'oh you can say whatever unless we don't like it.'

(1) He doesn't care if it's one instance, he doesn't care if it's 'for the good of the Federation.' The government does not get to tell the people what is good for them. If the people decide a government is too oppressive or does not approve of its actions and speak out against it, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

(2) If someone wants to write lyrics about Caldari and Gallenteans making peace and getting over the past to stop this pointless war, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

(3) IF someone wants to report on an unwarranted black ops raid on a concert because blaque didn't like someone who's lyrics rubbed him the wrong way and NOT have to worry about a media black out of federal goon threats, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

(4)IF someone wants to try and keep Minmatar refugees in the Fed safe from some dumb ass Black Eagle agent asking eggers to kill them for information and being a callous racist jerk towards them, further spurring on an emerging culture of racism and xenophobia towards anything NOT gallentean, then gods dammit that is their right and no one should take that away.

Thoun, Mentas, the Black Eagles, Roden, they're tearing apart the Federation Anslo loves. And for those who have RP'd with Anslo, they know what happens when someone threatens someone or someTHING he cares about.

Are these simply examples of what you and/or your toon thinks is being done/can be done or do you know something I have missed?

Anslo's had a lot of interaction with the Fed trying to get to the bottom of things. His first was when he contacted Thoun asking why the hell one of his men in the Gallente Epic Arc were saying to kill off Minmatar refugees (4) to get information they needed. He said he'd 'look into it.' I know nothing can be done as it's a mission, and I know using missions for RP is frowned upon, and I apologize, but the fact is that it's still there and Anslo was asked to do something he never thought the Federation would condone. It didn't help that it came from a Black Eagle.

Point (3) was already in the news article. They did a media black out. I'm sorry, when did the 'honorable' Fed become afraid of the truth? Why are they afraid to show what they do? How do we know their story wasn't concocted? Why should ANYONE trust them? They're Provists wearing Eagles.

Point (2) is inference from events. Anslo knows baseliners, a lot of them. He has an extensive network to get basic information he needs. Because of that, he hears things. You all remember the chronicle of the teacher 'disappearing' because he sided with the Caldari during a Gallente class or some such. I have it so Anslo hears about this. He doesn't know 100% it's the Eagles, but he can infer. He plays an idiot on the Summit, those who have RP'd with him know very much that he is anything but an idiot.

As for Point (1), we all saw that speech. When the hell did the Fed become big brother saying, "we're doing it for your own good?" No, that really rubbed Anslo the wrong way, especially given what he's seen and heard so far. To him, Blaque and Thoun are bigger threats to the Fed than Heth. He see's nothing but stupid political d*** waving for something that happened over a century ago. In his opinion, for the sake of the people, it's time the politics stop and the talks begin. He wants to see a Caldari-Gallente alliance, a real alliance, and he wants the political fear mongering executed, violently.

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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #52 on: 25 Feb 2013, 16:11 »

The bigger worry for me, if I were in the Federation, is that Blaque is a politician who is now in charge of an unaccountable police apparatus which evidently has nothing stopping it from disappearing people or whatever else he seems to feel like. How many of his personal enemies have started to join the lists of "traitors to the Federation" for no reason other than his personal vendettas? Would you even know if they had?

...and why isn't anyone within the Federation government asking those kinds of questions?
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #53 on: 25 Feb 2013, 17:04 »

The bigger worry for me, if I were in the Federation, is that Blaque is a politician who is now in charge of an unaccountable police apparatus which evidently has nothing stopping it from disappearing people or whatever else he seems to feel like. How many of his personal enemies have started to join the lists of "traitors to the Federation" for no reason other than his personal vendettas? Would you even know if they had?

...and why isn't anyone within the Federation government asking those kinds of questions?


At a guess...


a) because they don't want to wind up on the list of "traitors to the Federation"?
b) because the elements within the Federation government who would have asked those kinds of questions in a public venue have already been mollified, or reprocessed into biomass for the greater good.
c) because there's been a deal cut with The Scope to repress genuine dissent stories.  The dissent we'll be seeing from here on out will be carefully scripted in conjunction with SDII.  ('Cause the Federation knows how to put on a spectacle, yesiree.  Don't leave anything to amateurs.)
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #54 on: 25 Feb 2013, 17:16 »

It was a rhetorical question, Vieve. ;) My point was that...perhaps it was already too late.
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #55 on: 26 Feb 2013, 06:23 »

I'm only a recent consumer of EVE lore, but is this Jolee Hanvyner a new or pre-existing character? I find it hard to believe the Black Eagles would detain someone based on lyrical content, given the hedonism and rebellious nature of the Federation in general.

Heck, in the immediately preceding article, the Black Eagles released a couple of teenagers because of a GalNet backlash.
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #56 on: 26 Feb 2013, 10:51 »

It was a rhetorical question, Vieve. ;) 


Hey, I love it when I get a chance to answer rhetorical questions (instead of just ask them in a gently-poke-with-a-sharp-stick sort of manner).
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #57 on: 26 Feb 2013, 11:28 »

I'm only a recent consumer of EVE lore, but is this Jolee Hanvyner a new or pre-existing character?

Jolee Hanvyner appears to be new. (Unless she's tucked into the novels somewhere and has never before seen the light of Google.)
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #58 on: 28 Feb 2013, 10:19 »

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5038&tid=5

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Unel - A teenage hacker duo have been arrested by local police for altering the atmosphere of urban-tropical space colony Enact's Eight with a variant of crystal egg, a popular feel-good booster. The case was thrown to the media foreground after being labeled by several channels as one of the most bizarre stories this year.

The teenagers, who can not be named for legal reasons, were able to disable the drone security systems protecting the flora responsible for breathable air generation. It is believed they injected large quantities of a liquified variant of crystal egg into irrigated soil, and hacked into life support monitoring to prevent any atmospheric imbalances from being detected. Within an hour, thousands of citizens across the colony started exhibiting the symptoms associated with crystal egg use. Several infants were briefly hospitalized by the incident, but no deaths or severe reactions were reported.

Public testimonies from the teenagers reveal that the duo were attempting to "relieve the tensions" felt amongst Enact's Eight given their proximity to the Caldari border. Although infrequent border raids by State forces have not touched Enact's Eight, there is still significant unease amongst the colony. Nonetheless, both individuals were arrested and tried for sabotage. The pair were briefly detained by the FIO's Black Eagles after rumors circulated about possible Caldari involvement, but were released after only a few hours following a popular backlash over GalNet.

In terms of the actual effects on the citizens of the colony, it is known that vehicle traffic slowed down once the narcotic had entered the air supply, but no accidents were reported. Many of the citizens appreciated the gesture.

"All things considered, it was actually quite nice," said one citizen, "I decided to head to the beach, where everyone was far more sociable than usual. Things were a bit hazy, but overall, I think most of us appreciated being able to feel languid for a few hours."

There is an unconfirmed rumor that citizens considered not pressing charges against the duo due to being under the influence of the narcotic. The colony's governor, however, took the matter far more seriously.

"Luckily for the perpetrators, no individual was killed from their irresponsible and malicious act. This is frankly an embarrassment for Enact's Eight, and I expect all of us to ensure that our society does not encourage such reckless behavior in future."

The trial is currently underway. It is expected both teenagers will be sentenced to three years of compulsory education in addition to their current commitment, a common form of youth criminal rehabilitation in the Federation. It is reported that the colony are negotiating with Chemal Tech for upgrading their electronic security infrastructure.

Those wacky kids.
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Re: Fed Arc
« Reply #59 on: 02 Mar 2013, 22:40 »

If anything, I'm curious why Blaque is getting all the action and air time while Roden just quietly sits in the corner with his glowing-eyed Palpatine leer.
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