So let's try this again.
Love the videos but they could do without the 'description section' smack talk, specifically things like 'Militia scrubs' and the likes. I-RED is better than that.
The videos are posted by one of our more 'fiery' pilots, not by John or the rest of the leadership. The opinions expressed within do not represent blah blah blah. Disclaimer stuff.
Bullshit. By allowing him to voice such a 'we are so much better than you' attitude in both his descriptions and the video's themselves I-RED gives the impression they condone his way of thinking. What I assume to be his edit isn't helping either "We engaged a fleet of [not scrubs] militia" well look who could not bring himself to remove it entirely, instead trying for the 'not' approach in a pathetic attempt to be politically correct. Apparently it was enough for I-RED leadership to let it fly.
The video's were nice and all, but their execution gives me the impression that I-RED is on a whole very elitist about their dealings and generally don't offer much in the way of respect for... well, anything. Other sources leads me to believe this is not even remotely correct, but anyone who has not seen those can easily get the wrong impression. You may want to look into outlawing such an aggressive approach in such a public medium unless you don't care for the opinions people will form about your group. There are clearly more 'neutral' ways the same material can be presented that don't makes people take offense with, or misunderstand, you.
Aggro removal/
"While you claim that the opinion of one member don't speak for all, the voice of that one member is in a very public place and gives the impression that it is universal for your alliance. This is unfortunate because when you promote your alliance that I know for a fact is level-headed and competently decent, others can get the impression that you are very elitist and look down on others. You may want to look into avoiding this if you don't want people to miss-understand you."
/Aggro removal
Much better. Now if only I'd get better at doing this in the first place...
Speaking of aggro...
BloodBird, if you don't like I-RED or the way ONE of our pilots words something in a PvP video description, I'm not even sorry. This thread is not here to cater to your politically/socially correct ideals about what we should and should not be. It's here to provide a link to some Youtube videos. Get over yourself.
To any FW 'militia scrubs' here watching this thread, please note that what I said is not bullshit. anybody who spends more than a week in I-RED can tell you we actually do like the militias (certain corps and alliances excepted) because they are generally pretty cool guys who bring good fights. Please don't be upset by some playful namecalling. It's part of the rivalry we all enjoy in a PvP game.
EDIT: I should note that we do have some very hostile and butthurt relationships with certain militia corps. There are some we really really don't like, and some who really really don't like us. Not going to name names, but yes. They exist. It's possible the video poster misconstrued references to these former/current militia groups to include the whole militia... so maybe he was insulting all of the militia and meaning it. But in the end... is 'scrubs' really something to get so upset over? Seriously? In the words of CCP: "HTFU"
Two things.
First off, while the message was poorly made (and as they say, if the message was poorly written, blame the writer) the point would remain; I-RED is better served not giving people the wrong impressions about them in a public medium intended to promote your alliance's actions and I know for a fact you are better than implied in said public medium. This is the intended message of the above post.
You should learn to handle critics a bit better than "get over yourself", because in the context that your post was made, it made the whole thing ironic - Someone who apparently need to "get over themselves" tells another he should do so too.
Guess we can both learn something from this.
Secondly, When the Fed militia calls the Caldari militia 'squids' and get 'frogs' in return this is just two militias giving each other silly nick-names, that are not even understandable unless you get the in-debt explanation. When a non-militia entity apparently refer to the militia(s) as scrubs, it's taken as an insult to a supposedly inferior group of players - militia members. This is the bad thing I really think you want to avoid.
Bloodbird,
I've seen you rage out with 'elitest' bombs a few times and I think it might make others happier if you tone it down a few notches. Tempest in a teacup over a lot of things, mate.
Your advice is noted and appreciated. Not sure I can promise anything though, elitism is a pet-peeve of mine, sadly.
Also as for the video names/description, they are his creation I talked to him about it but in the end they are his video's and I cannot force him to do anything.
A little sad, you could do without the implications. But yes, his videos, his final word.
I've no more business in this tread, as it was. I'll be back every now and then to see if more video's are posted, however.
