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[Silas Vitalia]

Sen-Sational!

[Caellach Marellus]

Weird, I bring up Gutter Press and we get a new article.

Clearly they read the IGS! Time to start casting fingerpoints of suspicion.


:blames Gottii:

[Raphael Saint]

I commented on the Huola article (and since it was IC, so was my comment), and my only problem was that even after acknowledging the bias and the incorrect facts, there was no attempt to correct either of the instances.

[Nmaro Makari]

I commented on the Huola article (and since it was IC, so was my comment), and my only problem was that even after acknowledging the bias and the incorrect facts, there was no attempt to correct either of the instances.

Well lets not write them off just yet its early days

Besides, its not like they ignore the Amarr. And from what I understand taking Huola was a noteworthy acheivement. If the Amarr do something simmilar, let them know, they;ll probably publish it

On a sidenote, doesnt your back hurt with all those medals 

[Graelyn]

And from what I understand taking Huola was a noteworthy acheivement. If the Amarr do something simmilar, let them know, they;ll probably publish it

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/factionwarfare

The TLF HQ systems have fallen. Dal. Auga. Kourmonen. We hold all our HQ systems.  Amarr is dominating (like it matters lol) for the time being, which, thanks to CCP's not giving a fuck about us, can be reversed completely in mere hours.

However, being Amarr, we are not expecting anyone else to cheer us on. No one ever has, and if someone started to, I think we'd lose something important about ourselves. I have many problems with my militia, but one of the strengths of the core Amarr corporations right now is the way that morale tends to remain steady despite setbacks, and without much in the way of propaganda needed.

We know that each small step made by the TLF will be trumpeted from every corner they can get the message out to to bolster internal morale. This is also fine. The health of both militias depend on each other, and the minnies are a more morale-dependent group at this point (the degree of such has waxed and waned over the last year).

Anything that gets their FCs to engage is a good thing for all of us. Without good fights we all die off.

It's worth nothing, though, that when TLF is not doing so well, like this week, that efforts to cheerlead thier side can get a bit pathetic and nasty, like here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48524

Compared to that sort of bollocks, a bit of news partial to the other side is no big deal really, but don't piss on our shoes and tell us it's raining. No one wants the evil slavers to win. We know the score. If you're playing Amarrian, then by definition you love to be hated, love to play an arrogant prick, or are simply a masochist to begin with.

[Raphael Saint]

Yeah, Eran's bio-massing has nothing to do anything in-game, but the Minmatar milita was very quick to jump on the "LOL I KILLED HIM!!1!" and "LOLOL WE SO WIN!" thought trains.

'Course this is more the "Minmatar-militia-at-large," as I don't really see it from the Minmatar RP community.

/offtopic

[Senn Typhos]

Yeah, Eran's bio-massing has nothing to do anything in-game, but the Minmatar milita was very quick to jump on the "LOL I KILLED HIM!!1!" and "LOLOL WE SO WIN!" thought trains.

'Course this is more the "Minmatar-militia-at-large," as I don't really see it from the Minmatar RP community.

/offtopic

You could have just as easily made a "he killed himself in shame" thread. Minmatar got there first.

I mean he's bio-massed, so... not a lot of ways to avoid it ICly. Easy to prove he's dead.

[kalaratiri]

/even more offtopic

Yeah, Eran's bio-massing has nothing to do anything in-game, but the Minmatar milita was very quick to jump on the "LOL I KILLED HIM!!1!" and "LOLOL WE SO WIN!" thought trains.

'Course this is more the "Minmatar-militia-at-large," as I don't really see it from the Minmatar RP community.

/offtopic

There are very few real RP corps in the minmatar militia. Aside from my own, there is Huang Yinglong, who are a primarily Vherokior corporation, and there is Murientor tribe, who as far as I am aware are not very active right now. Thats pretty much it. A lot of the IGS posts from militia members recently have been pseudo-RPers, doing something IC on the IGS, but never or very rarely RP in game.

It makes me a bit 

[Kaleigh Doyle]

Also, Voyeur? You guys still around?[/b]

Yes, I (we) are, but not really active in EVE too much at the moment. I've been considering doing some weekly articles on current events and interviews with some interesting personalities, but my motivation has been lackluster at best. I'm all about low maintenance at this point, so if something does arise it won't be as 'grandiose' as our previous project. Honestly, what I'd prefer to see in my news, especially directed at capsuleers, is capsuleer-focused information, not just player-made PF-fluff.

[Lyn Farel]

Everybody knows that Amarr are evil and Minmatar are emo victims anyway. 

[Nmaro Makari]

And from what I understand taking Huola was a noteworthy acheivement. If the Amarr do something simmilar, let them know, they;ll probably publish it

Compared to that sort of bollocks, a bit of news partial to the other side is no big deal really, but don't piss on our shoes and tell us it's raining. No one wants the evil slavers to win. We know the score. If you're playing Amarrian, then by definition you love to be hated, love to play an arrogant prick, or are simply a masochist to begin with.

See thats the thing with RP, no one IRL wants evil slavers to win, but thing is anyone who remotely RPs has at least some ability to leave it at the door.

Yes the Amarr are a shifty, back-stabbing, self-righteous, god-squad according to most IC opinions outside the empire. However they are still about 30-40% of empire and influence EVE accordingly. They have a seat at all diplomatic tables, their clout in culture, military, and technology is enormous. The Empire is big and important, and if you're running a self-professed non biassed news agency (and you want to do it well), not something to be pissed all over lightly.

The point being thus: The idea that T4N is "Non-biased... but seekritly anti-amarr lolz" is ludicrous. One article. One blunder by an eager intern. But ynow, any excuse to talk about FW fail, w/e ...

*edit: Typo

[Kybernetes Moros]

To me it seems far from just another excuse to rant about FW's failings -- it's a legitimate point people have noted before, that often there is a tendency to gravitate towards factions perceived as "nicer", or to take factions and turn a blind eye to their darker elements. Leads to a lot of people playing by, as a few people put it, RL western moralities -- and from there a loss of depth in what is potentially a diverse system of values and ethics.

That said, I have been bittervet as all fuck recently. >_>

[Matariki Rain]

Yeah, Eran's bio-massing has nothing to do anything in-game, but the Minmatar milita was very quick to jump on the "LOL I KILLED HIM!!1!" and "LOLOL WE SO WIN!" thought trains.

It's the equivalent of a bomb going off and half a dozen groups popping up to claim responsibility. I thought it was a rather nice touch, in the sense of "realistic things happening spontaneously in the gameworld".

There are very few real RP corps in the minmatar militia. [....] A lot of the IGS posts from militia members recently have been pseudo-RPers, doing something IC on the IGS, but never or very rarely RP in game.

This brought me right back to earlier discussions about what constitutes a roleplay corp. That sounds to me like one of the definitions of RP-lite. I'm reluctant to call roleplay "pseudo" unless it's clearly OOC-led trolling, even though my own preference is strongly immersionist.

[Nmaro Makari]

This whole Eran death thing has been completely hijacked incidentally.

It would be a nice touch, this whole "I killed him" thing, of it wasn't a blatant troll both ICly and OOCly.

Which is why instead of people shouting stupid things on the IGS, player made news agencies should take up more of the posts just in general.

[Lyn Farel]

Yes. As much as it can be realistic and very interesting to see a lot of organization jumping on the occasion to claim their involvement in Eran "death", I just found this whole topic totally ludicrous, full of non credible hatred and troll. It even started not to sound really "RP" to me after 1 or 2 pages.

<- Bittervet as fuck too.